Mo/N build, can I get some advice?

sorry glyph of renewal Are you sure? I'm running out of energy as it is, if I take that, then I'll run out faster D;

Racthoh, Vexed, thank you for the ideas. I really like your build, Vexed, I'll have to incorporate some of that into my build, and I guess I should drop Healing Prayers.

One thing though: I think that what you're talking about with Contemplation is to cast it, then remove it. But, that could really kill my energy, because then I'd have to re-cast Divine Boon, and then probably need OoB to get myself back into action. But, with higher blood, that would probably be easier. Allow me to tweak this sucker.


Are you sure? I'm running out of energy as it is, if I take that, then I'll run out faster D; Contemplation of Purity is soley to remove hexes and conditions in one fell swoop. If you don't like CoP go with another hex remover. However there is no better spell to remove things like Migraine or Conundrum while an interrupter babysits you.

The Glyph of Renewal build is vastly different. It runs with things like Kinetic Armor, Divine Spirit, Glyph of Renewal and no boon. You either run Prot or Heal and keep your kinetic armor up by casting every 7 seconds or less pretty much. All your heal spells are reduced by 5 energy (1 is the lowest a spell can cost) and the Glyph lets you keep Divine Spirit up all the time. It is combo heavy and 1 Rend Enchantments = kaput. In Team Arena you will hit interrupt teams with some spike damage and those will shut down many single monk teams that don't use Mantra of Resolve on the healer, thus Protection is best.

Looking back I see why he suggested Glyph of Renewal, you had Divine Spirit in your build. If you really want a Divine Spirit build I do recommend Mo/E and at least Glyph of Renewal as suggested even if you choose not to use Kinetic Armor. With a Divine Spirit build I wouldn't mess with Signet of Devotion as I suggested.

Reversal of Fortune
Guardian
Protective Spirit
Divine Spirit
Glyph of Renewal
Kinetic Armor
Remove Hex
Mend Ailment

At least 8 in Earth would be my recommendation, high Divine Favor, the rest in Protection. You could drop Mend Ailment for another skill and have another member of your team run condition removal (E/Mo spiker/protection, R/Mo with just Mend Ailment from the monk line or maybe even Breeze, etc.).

Blood - 10
Prot - 14 (10+4)
DF - 13 (11+2)

RoF
Guardian
Shielding Hands
Mend Ailment
Prot Spirit
Boon
OoB {E}
Contemplation of Purity

This is what i use in 4vs4. Quite effective. A big fan of boon prots myself. I have been running monks exclusively in PvP for 3 months pretty much, and have yet to come across a build that is quite as versatile, once you get used to it.

However, in reference to your build: A Boon Prot is much more effective at 15 Divine, 9 Prot, 10 Blood. There are no prot skills that benefit hugely from any more than that, and the divine boost makes you a LOT more efficient. If you are going to suffer -1 regen, you may aswell use boon to the best of its ability.

Prot Spirit is a bit of a waste in 4v4 imo, you don't tend to see that much heavy spike. Nothing that you couldn't easily save with a ninja reversal anyway. Instead I would consider throwing in Holy Veil for hex removal.

A big fan of boon prots myself. I have been running monks exclusively in PvP for 3 months pretty much, and have yet to come across a build that is quite as versatile, once you get used to it.

However, in reference to your build: A Boon Prot is much more effective at 15 Divine, 9 Prot, 10 Blood. There are no prot skills that benefit hugely from any more than that, and the divine boost makes you a LOT more efficient. If you are going to suffer -1 regen, you may aswell use boon to the best of its ability.

Prot Spirit is a bit of a waste in 4v4 imo, you don't tend to see that much heavy spike. Nothing that you couldn't easily save with a ninja reversal anyway. Instead I would consider throwing in Holy Veil for hex removal. I have to test out those attributes Thanks for info. About prot spirit.. i have found it a lifesaver more times i can count. Its especially usefull when you have low armor casters on your team = read mesmers Stops any spiking very nicely.

I think boon is more effective if you focus on one attribute rather than 2. If you focus solely in healing, you will heal for A LOT. However, it's really overkill, and protection does it very well. right now (because shes stillhaving to get into groups) my monk is a pure healer, and can drop a nearly (in the 290s) 300 point heal other, and a healing touch for just over 200; and the skill-levels arent even max. (shes lvl 18 with no 15-skillpoint quests done yet)

However, in reference to your build: A Boon Prot is much more effective at 15 Divine, 9 Prot, 10 Blood.

Prot Spirit is a bit of a waste in 4v4 imo, you don't tend to see that much heavy spike. You were a little off on the stats: should be 11/10/10. But I agree that Prot Spirit is a waste in 4v4...

DF 15 (11+1+3)
Prot 11 (10+1)
Blood 10

RoF
Guardian
Shielding Hands
Mend Ailment
Remove Hex (use on team mates)
Divine Boon
OoB
Res Signet or CoP (CoP for self)

You were a little off on the stats: should be 11/10/10. But I agree that Prot Spirit is a waste in 4v4...

DF 15 (11+1+3)
Prot 11 (10+1)
Blood 10

RoF
Guardian
Shielding Hands
Mend Ailment
Remove Hex (use on team mates)
Divine Boon
OoB
Res Signet or CoP (CoP for self) Shielding Hands does NOTHING vs Ranger Spike, Warrior Spike, Ele Spike. It is only useful vs. normal attacks, that is it. It's slow recycle is crap. Max Protection you save 17 damage per hit, a warrior can lay out well over 100 damage on a skill attack. Reducing that to 40ish > reducing it to 83-130ish.