Trapper hating =\

I am a W/R and a trapper. Recently, and sadly, i have found out how hard it is for someone to trap unless in a complete trapping group, which in its self is hard enough. You can never find more than 2 trappers together at any given moment =\. Im jsut curious, is there a trapping guild out ther maybe, and if so are you recruiting. Im tired of changing skills to sword just so i can farm with monks and eles =\.

Wondering how affective a W/R is at trapping without expertise to lower the cost of laying all those traps. Also, as a W/R people probably don't think of you as being a trapper build. Just my thoughts.

well i was a W/Mo but i decided i wasnt too keen on that anymore. And I joined several trapping partys and I can hold my own. Besides strength's armor pen. works well with my bow.

You shouldn't need a bow in a trapper group.

Go to ToA district 1. There is almost always a trapper group starting. Don't expect to be let in though, because you are a Warrior.

You don't have much energy to lay enough traps down. You can't have 16 WS (not necessary to trap, but some people prefer it). If you are putting points into Strength, you are wasting points that would be more effective helping the trapping group, Spirits for example. Since you don't have points to go in Expertise, you could put 12 in WS and 12 in Beast Mastery to get a better than average EW than most groups bring.

I would rather see any caster/R down there trying to be a trapper than a Warrior. Energy is going to be a huge issue for you.

Yeah man, I've seen some Mo/Rs and W/Rs invite themselves to my group when I'm setting up a UW trap group. I don't have anything against them joining, but a high expertise and 16 WS is preferable. I do like how you're not your typical warrior though... that's somewhat refreshing. I'd suggest making a ranger if you want to trap and such though. Good luck!

I've trapped with a warrior before. All you need for energy are spirits and a good staff. You can lay out traps just as fast as you can possibly put them out from what I've seen.

By the way, most ranger trappers you'll find in PvE don't know how trapping works ; I've seen some who had 11 in WS while I, the W/r, had 12.

So you lay one level 12 dust trap and you're done?

That's not a good build.

With QZ and EW up it costs 10. With a good staff (i.e. the ideal trapping staff that gives +14 energy) and glad's armor you can have a decent amount of energy. So you'd be able to lay more than one dust trap. Granted, however your trap laying ability would be considerably weakened due to the lack of expertise.

W/R is not a trapper build. I don't understand the thought behind this, are you tank trapping in PvE? Like dropping barbed and spike in front of yourself and then tanking?

a warrior ranger with traps?
hillarous!

I think the reason you find it hard to trap unless in a complete trapping group is that one guy with traps on his own is just an annoyance, not really a huge factor in anything. It's only as useful as...any other character, except it takes longer for you to do all your stuff. Trapping has to be done a certain way, and no normal group wants to wait around and do things a certain way for the ONE trapper in their party when they could wizz through it otherwise.

a warrior trapping is like a mesmer tanking. Yeah..it's doable...but its not the best build for that task.

You can only lay the two cheapest traps, barbed then fire...then you gotta wait, and wait longer than rangers because they energy regen at 3, you do it at 2.

A trapping guild would only accept rangers.

Still ur being creative, and thus eventualy you fill succeed. Try trapping for an iway group, that could work well since they'd never suspect you!

12 BM is too high for EW-having your EW last 78 secs (lvl 5 BM) or even 70 secs (lvl 4 BM) is much more effective. It serves as a timer for pulling-that way your traps don't pop before you pull.

EDIT: Make sure to take in a +energy staff. +15 is perfect and there are a few green staves out there that are relatively cheap with +15 energy (I bought Flint's Fleshcleaver for 5k) and make sure you've got your Glad's on. Your only real issue won't be energy so much, but getting into elitist Trapper groups-the guys who won't take you because your WS isn't 16.

A proper trapper can lay at least 20 traps before the first one pops. I doubt a warrior could even lay a third of that but good luck trying.

IMO, a warrior is for tanking and using conventional attacks because that's what they are designed for.
Armour counts for nothing in a trapper group or solo trapping.

If you really must try to trap with a warrior in a group, i'd suggest taking peace and harmony for around 30 seconds of (non-divine ) +1 energy regeneration.

How could he possibly take peace and harmony?
Isn't a W/R already?
Or are you saying he should play support in a trapper group as a W/Mo?

Actually you can get a +13 energy staff from the Fires in the East quest in Ascalon; which can be modded to +18.

now i may be completly wrong on this because im not a trapper, but why not just use an off hand with 12 energy and faster recharge and a wand with 5 energy and faster recharge. seems to make the most sense to me...

With the right build I think a warrior/ranger could trap, something along the lines of victory is mine and some defensive stances to block the aaxtes would make the warrior a good tank for continued trapping. Although I still would imagine a ranger would be better at tanking as he can get 16 WS

I guess i should sleep more. lol.