Favorable Winds + Read the Wind = Stack?

A bit of testing leads me to believe that FW (+6/arrow) and RtW do not (unfortunatly) stack damage. Using RtW (at 15 marks - same as lvl 14 - giving +10/arrow) yeilded the same results as RtW + FW.

Can anyone else confirm this?

I did some testing outside Ascalon on the first few level 3 scorps you run in to (high chance for criticals and pretty constant max damage hits). I welcome friendly discussion and insight.

yes they stack. 2 of the main things needed for a good ranger spike

I know it is a favorable combo for a ranger spike (I use it myself). However, after reading a very interesting (and long) thread - I decided to test it for myself. Seems to me, that they do not in fact, stack. I'm looking for more of a solid answer than "yes they stack." Perhaps you could provide some proof to your reasoning? If required, I will try to supply screenshots if doubt it raised by too many people.

go to tombs and run with a ranger spike group. youll see in fact they do stack. Thats about my best advice. Everyone running a good ranger spike build in hoh will use read + favorable

I'm not questioning whether or not HoH spike teams use the combo. I'm questioning whether or not they stack. You can just assume they do because everyone else assumes they do - but that doesn't make it correct.

I would also like to see more people provide proof about this debate. I just read another thread about this, and people are saying it does stack, but no one offers any concrete evidence.

I also tested for a bit and it didnt seem to stack for me either. i tested on the Shatter Gargoyles that are all over the ruins right outside of Ascalon. Lvl 3 and 4 and many of them to test on. From what i observed it seemed i only gained dmg increase of ONE of those skills at any time. When recording my critical hits i compared to pure bow dmg, CAsting RtW, Casting FW, then Casting both RtW and FW. From this i saw that the dmg gain per critical seemed to only apply from RtW. <<< Hope that explanation was clear enough...

This all led me to believe that you only gain the highest amount of added dmg between RtW and FW. Since FW only adds +6dmg, it seemed that RtW dmg is the only one that applied.

Speed Stacking however, i have no idea how to test if that is working or not.

I will test again soon and try and provide clear concise numbers to explain my testing method....

EDIT:: Btw, this thread is in the wrong forum. Probably best in Strategy Discussion or Skill Discussion.

The proof is in the screenshots. All hits vs. scorpion seemed to be max damage but not critical hits (criticals ~180). I did it a few times to be thorough.

Read the Wind by itself:


Again, for consistencies sake:


Now, Read the Wind and Favorable Winds "stacked":


Again, for consistencies sake:

(you may notice multiple screenshots taken on this one - yes, the darn scorp was evading my arrows)

And of course, attributes whilst testing:


Seems to me that stacking RtW and FW doesn't actually do a whole lot in the stacking of damage department. You don't get the +6/arrow at all from FW. Pretty unfortunate. And, I'm not sure why, really. So, it seems the only benefit of using both is the 4x faster arrows (2x from RtW, 2x from FW). Bug or intentional, I do not know; but hopefully this enlightens the RtW + FW crowd.

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if it doesn't stack it should be fixed. its from 2 different sources and makes since it should stack.

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Yes They Stack!
Effects are wild as hell..

^^LMAO!! LOL!!^^

Indian. Read Idol's last few posts and mine before that. What a crack-up. If you are truelly refuting me and id0l, at least offer PROOF! lol 2x!!

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Moved to Arcane Repository.

So we're absolutely...100%...certain those skills don't stack?

...if so then...does the arrow at least fly faster with RtW and FW together than with just one of them.

Read the Wind, Favorable Winds, and Winnowing all stack to my knowledge.


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LOL! another "they stack cause i said they do" argument.

EDIT:: Even if it is "qualified" with a "to my knowledge" statement, it still does not offer anything beyond, yes it works, and no this doesnt work. Reputable forum reputation shouldn't mean a person is assumed as correct... I think the whole point of id0l's thread is to illicite further testing and present proofs from many different people in order to confirm or discard beliefs. Simple Yes and No's will not suffice. Btw, Thank You Post #21...

Please refrain from these useless comments, i would like to see more ppl actually test and experiement to compare to id0l's findings. Since mine coincide & agree with his, i'd really like to see others test this ....

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