Monks, most valuable classes?

Everywhere I go, all I hear is, "LFG monks," or "Prot monk and healer needed." I'm not trying to flame or anything, its just that most parties these day (whether a farming or a mission party) are in need of monks. I know I know, monks are very very useful when it comes to partying but what about the other classes? I'm pretty sure they feel left out. Post your opinions

Oh and if anything.. I'm sorry--I'm new to the forum ^.~

well evuntually people will realiz we need the other professions.

My mesmer groups with henchies most of the time. Although I did get groups for Thunderhead Keep and Ring of Fire. I felt so useful as a mesmer as when we took that bitch Monk boss down in RoF. My group actually praised me.

I'd take any class in any PUG I started though.

rangers are pretty left out too. most people prefer tanks for their physical people. For pvp though, trapper and disruptors (cough... me.... cough....) usually are welcome

Monk-healing and (to a lesser degree) protecting is the cornerstone of almost any defensive strategy. After all, if you have nothing to keep your health up, you need to kill either very, very fast, prevent damage on a massive scale or see your team die. So, monks are in demand, generally, especially in pve, as you cannot just make a monk for that, like you can for pvp.

That is why it would be great if the next chatper had another profession that could heal as well as the monk, or maybe not as well, but as energy efficient, or that would have some power that could perform the same function.

Maybe a druid would be an option for that (or a shadow monk, a priest, a shaman or something).

No point in that, Roza. It's not the profession, it's the role that most people hate to play.

Multiple healing classes do not tend to create that many more healers. Even then, even if an additional Healing Profession would be on par with Monk, it'd still be practically the same if not worse. People will want the established "best" (IE: easiest to use and understand) and be less willing to take the alternative.

i love playing my Monk... seeing players type "nice healing" or "awesome job monk" makes my day

and like roza said... monks are in high demand for PvE atleast... because... well u need someone to keep u alive while ur attacking

Monks are in demand because of the lack of reliable Self-Healing. They are the one class that most parties cannot go without. If you don't have a Warrior, you can make do with another defensive person. No Necro or Mesmer? Make do (most people dont take them anyways ). Missing a ranger? Use an ele. Missing an ele? Use almost any character specced to damage. Missing a monk? Now you have to rely on the sub-par self heals for each profession. Monks are "required" because of the lack of a fool-proof way of self healing (potions and the like)

(These are my observations, and are jsut based on the "normal" function played by the majority of the classes. I am by no means saying that all the classes are one sided. *puts on flame suit*)

And here I was thinking that a) you can do without a monk, those self-heals actually heal you well enough and b) this game encourages diverse teams, meaning one of each profession and in the later part of the game, two more of any profession the team seems to think is useful.

Also, in most circumstances, Alesia is competent enough to heal you, as long as you realise that she doesn't have endless energy, but unlike a real monk, she doesn't tell you that she's low on it. (I say in most circumstances because I've seen her hate a Ele with a passion I had never seen before)

My main character is a monk - and as a monk, I prefer to have 1 (or two, but usually only one) stance warrior with me. endure pain + defy pain + dolyak signet is usually enough.

Also, I like having 1 nuker, and 1 ranger for interrupts. for the rest of the professions, I dont really mind having them come along. A good minion master or BiP battery is very nice to have, as well as a good renewal nuker and interrupt ranger.

I think more people need to realize that monking isn't always easy (heals don't magically come from infinite energy pools), and sometimes you have to let a party member die in order keep the remaing party members alive to accomplish the objective. (you know what I mean: that one nuker that refuses to move away from the mob, and thinks that because he has a lvl 18 fireball, he's the most important person on the team since he can do massive damage.)

Well IMO monks and warriors are must have for any party, but there are more tanks than than demand. However, there are fewer monks than tanks so it becomes harder to get them then tanks.

Rangers are left out a bit. Not very many people realize the things rangers can bring to battle. A trapper ranger is the most common, but traps don't become available until late.

Nukers are crucial, but not necassary. I've beaten plenty of mission w/o a nuker though it is really hard and there abilities are really helpful. Again there also seems to quite a few of these though I have found myself searching for nukers.

Mesmers and Necro are raising in popularity IMO. Battery Necro are better than mesmers, but the anti-war. skills of a mesmer are helpful. I have found myself really appreciating the skills of any battery necro in my party.

Either way, I hope to see something done in chapter 2 to lessen the dependance on a sole class. If every tombs group basically had to have 3 mesmers to compete, people might complain that they were overpowered. But no one cares that 3 monks are needed to run a decent group. (I'm not saying there aren't good builds that don't use 3 monks, but this is the standard)

in pvp and gvg i find that my monk is the best because no-one dies.

But monks are not the most played char because they cannot do as much damage and mostely are not allowed to use other spells but healing

The easiest way I can see this solved (which should prob be mentioned in that one channel) is to have chars use runes of secondary prof in the next chapter, that way I think no professon will be left out too much.

Like I always say, all prof combos can be very good when u just think, this game was supppose to be skill, lol even says it on the box i think.

Well we monks sure are in demand

However, I believe it's simply due to the lack of people who play monk. More often than not when I join a PuG they already have n-1 slots filled with a mix of the various classes, and they are simply looking for a monk to complete the team.

Monks are in demand because there are fewer to go around, not because they are a more important class per se. Most people prefer doing damage - rather than healing others.

being a monk is not nice u get all the flack from other people if thay die

its not my falt thay had 40 people on u stupid runsher and it will be nice if u waited till i had some mana 2 heal u with fool

This is SO not true. There are plenty of people playing monks now. More than say, a Mesmer, but you still dont see Mesmers in demand do you?

It's just simply that Monks are too necessary and very very very effective at what they do. No other class is so in demand....which is a problem.

But yeah, in general monks are useful, and a lot of people rather play damage dealers. Which is why they are spammed in chat.

Oh, really? Who have you been playing, to never have a death?

Monks are great to have , but not having a monk is not the show stopper for rangers as it is for others. Ranger only groups can go anywhere in game. I've done "ring of fire" with all rangers, UW and even FoW quests Someone even posted a walk though of all rangers to doing Thunderhead Keep. And sometimes we don't get much healing anyway when in groups, so you learn to play different. We got a self heal and a group heal. They are not great but you learn to function within their limitations. There is nothing in this game that can't be trapped, spiked out, or interupted. Sometimes it takes thought but it can be done.

As far as being left out yeah, rangers are hated pure and simple. I've stood in ToA many times for 90 minutes only to log out without getting a group for FoW my favorite place ingame. It comes from the joy of being mean imho. People like to "belong" and the holy trinity is a private club. Because people can act like they don't know what we do, but the one thing they do know is they don't want us coming for them. When they see a ranger on the other side of the areana coming at them, every class has the same thought "aahh crap" because they know its gonna be a rough fight regardless of win, lose or draw.

I have a monk and a warrior and when i am looking to do a mission with my monk i advertise and i get a bunch of replies half the time when i do it with my war i dont really get any,But yeah everyone likes to have a monk even if it prot just to be a helping hand when needed.