Player Gold undervalued on Guild Wars news

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LifeInfusion
LifeInfusion
Grotto Attendant
#1
"50% of all active accounts have fewer than 10 platinum pieces,75% of all active accounts have fewer than 20 platinum pieces"

Um, are you serious? I get that in a month playing a dozen or so hours a week (more on weekends and vacations)... and without any botting or soloing , just henches in Sorrow's or Fissure/UnderWorld
They must not count the 15K armors, million dollar weapons, or the fact that most of the players are playing only casually since it has no monthly fee (I play casually, just as much as I can, which is often >_>).

http://www.guildwars.com/community/f...-friday61.html

EDIT:Added comments on other issues.

Comment on the section on bots:"when players use bots to farm gold around the clock...obviously unfair to the vast majority of players who play the game normally. We have no tolerance for bots."

I LOVE THEM NOW, even though I loved them before. Ban the darn botters They screw economy by flooding the market with platinum.

"These companies hire large teams of people, often working in sweatshop-like conditions for very little pay, to play Guild Wars for many hours a day in order to rake in gold and items."

I hate these employers, since it creates unfair gaming since people can Ebay their gold. I hate ebayers.
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KvanCetre
Wilds Pathfinder
#2
I have never had more than 30k. As soon as I had that much, I started working on 15k armor and black dye.

I maintain roughly around 10-15k... but I am down to 8k now as I pay most of the money toward my newest character and my girlfriends character's armor, runes, dyes, etc.
Racthoh
Racthoh
Did I hear 7 heroes?
#3
I just think it's pretty sad to think that people are paying hard earned cash to buy gold in Guild Wars when it serves almost no purpose. They have nothing better to do with their lives than to make their virtual self look pretty.
Ollj
Ollj
Jungle Guide
#4
I do not trust statistics i didnt fake by myself.
Arturo02
Arturo02
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
everyone cries about money in online games yet they don't practice proper money management skills.

And btw, most people don't succeed in selling gold or anything else on ebay. Only the most dilligent make the sales.
Denny Pace
Denny Pace
Academy Page
#6
The only time I had more than 20-30k in gold was when I was saving up for the outrageously expensive Sup Absorption and Sup Vigor. Once that was achieved, I didn't see a need to concentrate on getting rich, as fancy armor wasn't any more effective than Droknar's.

Frankly, I distribute what I make these days between developing other PvE characters and philanthropic pursuits with friends and guildmates. Personally, I'd never pay real $$$ for game gold/items/accounts, but I can see how it has become an industry in and of itself, and how it can mess up the entire in-game economy. The people who produce Eve (another online game) have been very aggressive in shutting down this sort of thing, while Anet has been quietly gathering information/proof for a future cleansing.

In the end, I suppose that Anet has to do something significant about this, but it's regrettable that they are forced into this to preserve the economy. After all, I think we'd all rather have them put all of their energy into the game, not legal pursuits.
Align
Align
Krytan Explorer
#7
Seems like it follows a curve:

I have 100plat in storage, my guildmates have less than 20, and then theres some people that have 1,000plat and then some.
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Theus
Jungle Guide
#8
Most I had at one time was 75-80kish.

Then I went and bought 15k armor because I found almost no use for having such a large amount of gold.
LifeInfusion
LifeInfusion
Grotto Attendant
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Align
Seems like it follows a curve:
I have 100plat in storage, my guildmates have less than 20, and then theres some people that have 1,000plat and then some.
You have 100plat like me (or conversely, I have 100 plat like you) and I have been PVPing for the past month and a half. That means all the cash was racked up in a matter of a few months of playing.
I think it is all about saving money instead of buying the "best weapons" and newest thing like green items, I used 60plat to buy 2 sets of 15K and never spent more than 6K for any item from another player. I use collector gear. My warrior doesn't get 15K because 15K Warrior isn't original (considering the only one people don't wear are the ascalon sets).
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Tmm Ryan
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
I Dont trust those statistics, i have made over 400k in 2 months of play.

bought glad armor for my warrior.
Spent about 80k on other items.

Now i have just over 200k.
Align
Align
Krytan Explorer
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
You have 100plat like me (or conversely, I have 100 plat like you) and I have been PVPing for the past month and a half. That means all the cash was racked up in a matter of a few months of playing.
I think it is all about saving money instead of buying the "best weapons" and newest thing like green items, I used 60plat to buy 2 sets of 15K and never spent more than 6K for any item from another player. I use collector gear. My warrior doesn't get 15K because 15K Warrior isn't original (considering the only one people don't wear are the ascalon sets).
I PvP rarely, and I haven't spent more than 5plat at any given moment. I think it's more of a matter of how fast you get gold, and if you're trying to save up for something special.

EDIT: Considering ANet has access to the database with all the accounts(at least I assume they do, dunno how else they would go about banning bot accounts etc), I think they're a pretty reliable source on this. Most GW players don't go to forums.
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NightOwl
Lion's Arch Merchant
#12
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=69788

Another thread on the topic.

Anyhow, I have a pretty fair amount of plat myself as I refuse to pay insane prices for items. 80k for that staff? Keep it. 100k for that widget? I'll find one eventually. All of my characters have droks armor, and that's sufficient for me. I've been playing with dyes lately, but not black or even silver. Just not that important to me, I'd rather save the cash for skills and needed runes. No, I don't need a full set of sup runes for my monk, either.

'course, it also helps joining the game a while after other friends, who donate starter cash.
Mercury Angel
Mercury Angel
Avatar of Gwen
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
I just think it's pretty sad to think that people are paying hard earned cash to buy gold in Guild Wars when it serves almost no purpose. They have nothing better to do with their lives than to make their virtual self look pretty.
I think it's sad that other people feel the need to judge whether what people are spending their money on is 'worthy' or a 'waste of time'. Particularly when they often have gross double standards...
And people that waste their lives away playing video games, what the heck are they thinking? Or posting on forums about video games, I mean there's nerdy, and then there is SUPER nerdy.

But that's just my opinion...
</Sarcasm'd FTW>

Anyway, on-topic;
I have about 130k in pure cash, unsure what the items I save are worth.
Occasionally, I buy things for fun, but otherwise, I am a very conservative spender.

This money I gained through Farming. About 20-30k of what I have is through natural play.

For people that don't farm at all, and still like to spend a little on aesthetic items, I can easily see them not having much money. Each character I created before drops were increased, and armors were assured to have certain kinds of runes and mods, before they had a 100% salvage rate, only had ~6k a piece after beating the game.
Kool Pajamas
Kool Pajamas
Forge Runner
#14
I completely trust those stats. My main account has less than 20k in it. I've been playing for 4 months. I dont have 15k or fissure armor. I just dont play 24/7 like some people do.

I'd like to know the ages of these people with 100k+ in their accounts. I'd bet the vast majority are kids that dont have a job.
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black_betty
Academy Page
#15
Well to be honest I am 37 and an at home mum. I played this originally as a time waster then got right into the mix of things. My storage ran out of space for gold so then I had to buy another cd key just to store things. Anyhow I would just like to say that they obviously havent taken into account anything apart from gold. For the past 2 months I have been storing ecto, since I cannot store any more money on any of my accounts. The 1.4M gp per account in my view is ludacris but then again many dont need the money to begin with. Im not saying I need all this money i have hoarded, but then again it was all done legit through farming and the likes. Remember it is just a game, money is not a real issue if you dont worry about it, and it seems most of you dont. My 2 cents anyhow
Hanuman li Tosh
Hanuman li Tosh
Lion's Arch Merchant
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Align
Seems like it follows a curve:

I have 100plat in storage, my guildmates have less than 20, and then theres some people that have 1,000plat and then some.
that curve looks strangely familiar....

oh yeah its the curve from the ladder at wc3. and i bet if you looked at the PvP curve from GW it would look exactly the same too. (using W:L ratio).
tastegw
tastegw
Krytan Explorer
#17
if you guys dont have any money, just go pvp and win a few hall of hero battles. that chests drops some really good stuff.

sigils sell for about 35k, win a few of those, and whala, you got some gold.
Aracos79
Aracos79
Krytan Explorer
#18
Yes because just anyone can hop into a PUG at Tombs and win the Hall. :P
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Dead Panda
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
Well, I think they give us some part of the "truth".

Does this include total sum of gold per character? Or just the current amount of gold on a single character? Does it include storage moolah?

PLEASE SPECIFY. D:


Besides, like gold really matters in this game. If it did anyhow, then an auction house would like, seriously let some gold flow around alot better.
fenix
fenix
Major-General Awesome
#20
I had 140k recently, but I bought 15k Platemail and a heap of other crap (including a 2nd set of droks armor + full set of monk runes for my Mo/W), and it went down to 20k. Then I did something else which brought it down to 300g, then I found a Sup Vigor in SF, and then I bought some more unid'd stuff, so now I have 25k. My cash fluctuates all the time, I don't really feel the need to save unless I want something.