Warrior/Monk KD/HS

I normally use Beserkers Stance instead of Frenzy and i dont bring Sprint Try to bring Bane Signet which auto knocks anyways for the attackers and then you can always HS afterwards. Well this is mainly designed to get rid of casters. So if they run they don't attack and I can't KD, then i'm pretty useless. With sprint I can catch up with them. I think I shouldn't take Bane Signet for that reason but swapping out Frenzy for BS might be a good idea but I have to take a look on it.

I do the hammer bash too early and it don't register as another knockdown. When I wait for it a bit longer [doing an extra swing], by the time I try for Hammer Bash, I have to start chasing cause the enemy got away... I never have that problem. *shrugs*

I too use berserker's for a hammer build.

I run a build similar to it using Smite hex as my offensive/defense measure...

Berserker's Stance is great in that it doesn't 'over shoot' your knocklock.

My results when testing Frenzy vs. Berserker's are as follows...

Berserker's. I do my Adrenaline attacks a tiny bit faster and when I start the combo, my attack speed is normalized and all my hits land...

Frenzy. I gain adrenaline faster [though not as fast as berserk], however, when I start my knocklock: Devastating, Crushing, Hammer Bash, I do the hammer bash too early and it don't register as another knockdown. When I wait for it a bit longer [doing an extra swing], by the time I try for Hammer Bash, I have to start chasing cause the enemy got away...

Berserk's is also good in that I don't eat 2x damage and not having a shield really hurts... There are 2 things BS worries me about. When I hit it on, the caster starts running, then i have to hit my walkspeedenhancer and wait for BS to be recharged (second thing that worries me). Maybe it's just a matter of timing when to hit BS. With Frenzy the only problem I have is gettin double damage which isn't really good, but with a monk in the team I shouldn't really worry too much about it.

Neither do I have a problem with missing Hammer Bash:

Backbreaker->Crushing Blow->HS->Mighty Blow/Hammer Bash (depends on if the target is almost dead or not).

I will test BS some more and hope I can get an advice when to hit it.

Thanks for the input so far

I never have that problem. *shrugs* It could be cause you're in Frenzy mode ... Frenzy > Beserker Stance

Normally when i run a W/M as a build i normally bring an axe
1) BS
2) Eviscerate
3) Excutioners
4) Pen
5) Bulls Charge
6) Banish
7) Holy Strike.

Sometimes ill Swap Pen for Rake to Disrupt But you have Massive Damage with an axe and you can still Knock Down, Disrupt, and Holystrike a down player. Ive found it to be a Useful build in my opinon. I haven't really a clue what the BS skill is...do you mean Bull's Strike? Also, unless they changed something when I was looking, your build may be impossible to run seeing that you carry 2 elites (Evis and Bull's Charge).

Edit: Nevermind the BS thing, figured out you meant Beserker Stance...

Berserkers Stance

I been using that skill for months, thrrew it out in debates like 10 times and always got flamed, bashed, ganged up on. so...FINALLY!! some people agree it is a vERY useful skill, despite the longer cooldown...

i feel all fuzzy inside! heh Love it in pvp.
I use that and Sprint too so i cant miss to catch a running caster like someone said above.

I think a Zealous Hammer will help fix that? Fixes my problems in most situations Still, I get that feeling that I could be using something better...

And I agree with Eonwe, I have never had a problem smashing them down again with hammer bash, probably something to do with that "can hit them after they start running if you have started the skill" thing. You are using the combo under a speed enhancer correct?