Lets discuss the most overpowered skill combos' introduced in the patch

Glyf of Renewal (E) + Divine spirit @16 divin favor +20% enchant staff = infinite monk mana. Now i dont have to worry about that pesky energy thing i can just spam spam spam my heals/enchants. Gata get back to farming faction before this gets patched/nerfed

oh and the newly improved holy veil and kinetic armor go well with this combo... hex removal on demand for 1 mana and only 10 second recharge. You can keep kinetic armor up an entire match if its not removed since you can pretyy much cast non stop forever if ur usin all 5 mana skills.

Now go out there and dominate that comp area

If your a monk and you have 16 divine favor, I would proceed to kick you from my group.

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doesnt necessaraly need to be 16 in divine favor its just that at the lvl divine spirit lasts 15 seconds ~17 seconds with an enchant wraping this allows you to keep it on urself indefinetley with glyf of renewal with lower divine favor u'll just have a few second gap in between ... Also its nice to be able to recast divine spirit while it is still on you (just ending) thus costing 5 mana instead of 10

i actually went and tried this in CA, i just went in, kept doing the divine spirit combo thing and then just spammed every skill in my bar. i never ran out. what was pretty annoying was that you had to redo it every 15 seconds, something that can be a problem. also, if someone removes your enchantment and you dont notice it you could screw yourself, but the 15 seconds means it cant be that bad. anyway pretty cool overall ^^

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Anyone else think my "one-liner" was self explanatory? Beacuse I sure did.

because the added health boon from DF really sucks... thats it right?

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Ok then.

If you do use that combo, you take up an elite slot, and a couple of seconds for casting that. Every 15 seconds you MUST cast the glyph along with DS which takes up approx 2 seconds (I know glyph is 1 sec, dont remember DS) and in those 2 seconds a party member could die. If you and another monk run the same build, then you both would need to take that time to prepare when under heavy fire. If one of you runs it the other monk will eventually run out of energy and you would take some time to do this. Also relying on ONE enchantment to make you gain energy is not wise. There are so many enchant strippers and the target usually gets rended so that = waste.

Therefore if you max divine favor for a regular build, it would seem pointless to me, and if you max it with this build when you aren't in random arena it is pretty much the same.

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Why go through all the hooplah of making a stupid one-liner that you know (unless you're an idiot) is going to cause a bunch of followup "you're a troll" posts? You could have just skipped right to your reasoning from the get go instead of being an arse, so we could get on with discussing it.

Anywho, to get on with the actual discussion, I don't think the point of this is to have all of your monks running this (why would you think that anyway?) Many builds will have a boon monk, who already has high DF. As was mentioned, 15 is enough to run this, and 15 is perfectly reasonable for a boon monk. Now, assuming you wanted secondary ele, you could either have this or an elite like energy drain or something, which produces you ~13 energy every 30 seconds, or you could run this which produces you 4 energy per spell cast for the next 15 seconds, minus 10 for the casting Thus, if you cast 8 monk spells over 30 seconds, it balances out.

Is this somewhat worse overall? Yes, I think so, but then on the other hand it allows you to have ele as a secondary instead of mesmer. Basically, where you would originally have to take necro or mesmer for energy management, you now have ele as an option as well, meaning more overall flexibility in designing your builds.

Quote: Anyone else think my "one-liner" was self explanatory?

Not with the most recent patch, but I loved the Sorrow's update beefing of spinal shivers. <3

Got a bunch of monks whining about how it was overpowered.

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Hm.. either you have something against superior runes.. or something against the most popular lines of the professions.. not too sure which one, then again, I have no great knowledge of things anyway, but wouldn't mind if you explained it to those of us who are VERY slow (me).

You dont want 16 weapon attribute.....


you play pve or something?

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