New Guild Wars Ladder

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Vax
Banned
#1
New Guild Wars Ladder is going to be provided by the Global Warfighter League [GWL]
http://mygwl.com

You can find forums, and ladders for Guild Wars there

The ladder will be locked until there is 20 teams on the ladder
Guild Battle Ladder only
8v8 American
8v8 Korean
8v8 European
8v8 International

5v5 American
5v5 Korean
5v5 European
5v5 International

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The current rules for the ladders will be finished within 5 days max.

In that time, you can register your team, and get on the ladder.

Once there is 20 teams on that ladder, the ladder will unlock and you will be able to challenge other teams.

If you have any questions you can post on the Guild Wars forum "Guild Wars Techincal Help" if you're having any problems with the GWL website.

My name on the website is VaX, and I am the Guild Wars Ladder Manager....

If you do have any personal questions, or concerns you can PM me on http://mygwl.com
Kai Nui
Kai Nui
Desert Nomad
#2
Go advertise somewhere else?
theVariable
theVariable
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
Yeah really. Find another way to get your guild/group (whatever you are) noticed. There's an official ladder. Nothing else matters. Unless you're making a special olympic ladder? In that case, I apologize. Carry on. And where can I go to donate to your cause?
Divine Elemental
Divine Elemental
Desert Nomad
#4
ur the annoying guy who is spamming in int dis 1
Mumblyfish
Mumblyfish
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
Chastising a player for setting up an alternative ladder to ArenaNet's official trainwreck? Only on Guild Wars Guru!

The "official" ladder means nothing, and is in dire need of a frequent reset. This ladder seems like it will only comprise of worthwhile teams, will be adequetely "modded", and better fits the competitive spirit of the game. If my Guild weren't inactive due to college/uni starting, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. Nice one.
V
Vax
Banned
#6
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Originally Posted by Mumblyfish
Chastising a player for setting up an alternative ladder to ArenaNet's official trainwreck? Only on Guild Wars Guru!

The "official" ladder means nothing, and is in dire need of a frequent reset. This ladder seems like it will only comprise of worthwhile teams, will be adequetely "modded", and better fits the competitive spirit of the game. If my Guild weren't inactive due to college/uni starting, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. Nice one.
really couldnt have said it better myself

but.. of course it is meant for all guild types (powerful and weak)
theVariable
theVariable
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
Perhaps I'm narrow minded, but what is wrong with the current ladder? I would prefer people stick with a standard and not divert their attention all over the place. If it's to deal with griefers, exploiters, and other cheap tactics, then I guess I could understand that, but the pool of participants in unoffical ladders would be too small to justify any kind of accomplishment. So what if you reach the top? There's probably a lot of better, legit guilds you'd never go up against. Only because they didn't waste their time diverting their attention away from the standard. So maybe the standard should be governed better, but you should take that case up with Anet. If everyone starts trying the make their own ladder, then there is absolutely no way to guage your success. And that's why you need an all encompassing standard. Unless I missed something?
V
Vax
Banned
#8
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Originally Posted by theVariable
Perhaps I'm narrow minded, but what is wrong with the current ladder? I would prefer people stick with a standard and not divert their attention all over the place. If it's to deal with griefers, exploiters, and other cheap tactics, then I guess I could understand that, but the pool of participants in unoffical ladders would be too small to justify any kind of accomplishment. So what if you reach the top? There's probably a lot of better, legit guilds you'd never go up against. Only because they didn't waste their time diverting their attention away from the standard. So maybe the standard should be governed better, but you should take that case up with Anet. If everyone starts trying the make their own ladder, then there is absolutely no way to guage your success. And that's why you need an all encompassing standard. Unless I missed something?
The ladder that GWL is making for GW is diffrent from the current one. Change is always something that is good in the end.

Guild wars GvG's are basically just randomized... While on this ladder (like most) you can formally challenge any guild that is closely ranked to you.
So say if you're ranked 250 on the website (for gwl), you would be able to challenge up to 175-250 ranked guilds

That sort of thing

Just offers more competition

Considering if you played on this ladder you would also be playing for the ladder that Arena Net has provided.. so either way its a win win situation, with just schedualed GvG's.
theVariable
theVariable
Frost Gate Guardian
#9
Thanks. That makes more sense

Ok. So a structured ladder would be welcome, but you'd still want widespread adoption. Various, competing ladders would make that difficult. Good luck to anyone who wants to build up an unofficial ladder (including the OP)...
OverlordTyrael
OverlordTyrael
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumblyfish
Chastising a player for setting up an alternative ladder to ArenaNet's official trainwreck? Only on Guild Wars Guru!

The "official" ladder means nothing, and is in dire need of a frequent reset. This ladder seems like it will only comprise of worthwhile teams, will be adequetely "modded", and better fits the competitive spirit of the game. If my Guild weren't inactive due to college/uni starting, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. Nice one.
With only 20 open spots, and probably 15 of them dedicated to crap teams, I wouldn't be surprised if one guild from the top 30 of the official ladder joined and dominated everyone. There's no point in setting up a ladder with such few slots.
V
Vax
Banned
#11
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Originally Posted by OverlordTyrael
With only 20 open spots, and probably 15 of them dedicated to crap teams, I wouldn't be surprised if one guild from the top 30 of the official ladder joined and dominated everyone. There's no point in setting up a ladder with such few slots.
when did i say 20 open spots?

i said the requirement for the ladder before it opens is 20
meaning before we can start the competition we need to have 20 teams on the ladder...
there can be an unlimited ammount of teams on the ladder..
V
Vax
Banned
#12
Overlord how about you get your guild up on the ladder too? More guilds is more competition (and its a bonus for the ladder that you're good too :P )
OverlordTyrael
OverlordTyrael
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
It's not that I dislike the idea of a third part ladder (although I wouldn't have the power to make such a decision anyway, but you can always make a post in the Black Rose Gaming public forums at www.blackrosegaming.com) it's the fact that I doubt any third party ladder will have enough good players to interest anyone. There's also the fact that much more prestige comes from being a top guild on the in game ladder when compared to a third party one.
Red Locust
Red Locust
Site Contributor
#14
How exactly do you plan on making the 5v5 work?
V
Vax
Banned
#15
People sign up on the team
you put 5 people in the team for the Guild Vs. Guild match
And let the battle begin..
I dont understand what anyone wouldnt understand about that but okay lol

also if you were wondering 5 is the minimum to start a guild battle
thats why we made it 5v5
Red Locust
Red Locust
Site Contributor
#16
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Originally Posted by Vax
People sign up on the team
you put 5 people in the team for the Guild Vs. Guild match
And let the battle begin..
I dont understand what anyone wouldnt understand about that but okay lol

also if you were wondering 5 is the minimum to start a guild battle
thats why we made it 5v5
I wasn't being too clear. What I meant was, why would you do a 5v5? The game isn't balanced for 5v5 gameplay (GvG sure as hell isn't) and you're gonna get something like arenas, which isn't the best PvP around.

Plus the whole scam aspect of it. Team 1 enters gvg with 5 people, team 2 enters with 8, and it's gg thanks for rank/faction for team 1. Just doesn't seem like this idea will fly.
V
Vax
Banned
#17
which is over course why there are rules to a LEAGUE website

You can spend your free time going through the rules on the website
and incase you havnet seen my last 1000 posts here is another link
http://mygwl.com < competition < guild wars < rules

If a team on the 5v5 ladder uses anymore than 5 people in that guild battle, all the other team has to do is take a screenshot of how many people are on the other team, and then send it to a GWL Guild Wars Admin (being me as I am the only one at the moment), and I would have to give a warning to that team that broke the rules, and then award a forfeit win to the team that reported the team with more than 5 people

Black Helll
Black Helll
Academy Page
#18
no seriously go spam about this somewhere else
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Academy Page
#19
A well organized 3rd party ladder has better potentials than the official one. For one the rating/point system ranking is initialy flawed in its nature and could be easily exploited. Not to mention that at the moment the top 20 of official ladder consist of 16 teams. if im correct might be even less. Unofficial ladder would be taken much more serious than the official one if the top teams were to sign up.

I would be interested to see GWL ladder system/rules before even thinking of creating an account there though.

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Plus the whole scam aspect of it
Thats what the screen shots are for.
Red Locust
Red Locust
Site Contributor
#20
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Thats what the screen shots are for.
That's all well and good, but screenshots won't stop a scam from happening. The potential for griefing is strongly present.