Like the update but the cost of skills...

Too much. I can't afford buying many skills at a time which is so frustrating because I just changed my second prof so I could unlock skills. What are the benefits to this? I don't see ANY. People say that they had a hard time accumilating skill points even though it was EASY if you just spent them wisely and you aren't a chronic skill buyer. I just bought the skills I need at the moment and I always came back later. 1 plat is way too much IMO for the basic stuff. Makes me angry that I didn't stay up all night and all day buying skills when I had the chance.


And for those who will come here and see a negative aspect to the update from what I see and tag this a ''WHINER'' thread, you're not wanted here if all you're posting is,"HEY HEY HULLO WHY R U PLAYING DELETE THE GAME ANET IS AMZING." Constructive posts only, I really need explaining.

Easiest explanation I can think of is as a money sink. Raising the prices has caused alot more gold to exit the economy, to offset the reduced rune prices maybe.

That change doesn't really make sense. Why make it easier to acquire skill points, both through high exp quests and lower exp cap per point - and at the same time increase price of individual skill. Sure, there might've been people who paid more than 1p for skill - but that's only happened if you bought *a lot* of them. Myself, I regret not buying everything I could and massing SoCs before update.
And of course, for some, 1p is pocket money they get in 5 minutes - again, that's not *everyone*.

In short, from what i've gathered it. ARENA NET HAS SCREWED THE CASUAL PLAYERS. Like myself. I have to now change back to my original second profession being a Monk because being a Necromancer isn't fun at all if I have to dish out a lot of money to actually enjoy it.

You can make 1 plat alot faster than you can make 1 skill point, so in reality it is easier to unlock another secondary profession. Also, this provides a new gold sink which is needed. MANY PvP players complained that it takes too long to unlock skills and this significantly shortens the amount of time, also, it means you don't have to play multiple characters.

If I want to be able to play every single class in PvP, I had to either pay ALOT of gold to unlock skills for my 3rd/4th/5th secondary professions along with difficult to get skill points or play the game 3 times. Now people can play it once and just buy up all the skills on one primary character. If you are a casual player, you are not really screwed as almost all skills can be obtained from quests and the few that can't you don't really have to buy if you don't intend to use them. So you would be spending a bit more gold, but it's nothing that will cripple you. Steel used to be 2k gold a piece when the game first came out, now you can get them at bargain prices so even as a casual player you should have quite a bit of gold..

Two words: Gold Sink

Look around at some of the other changes they made.

Gold sink? Can sombody define this for me? I haven't noticed better gold drops at all and with the weapons so easy to access it makes it hell for me to sell things so i'm just not getting gold at all.

Gold sink = a mechanism which takes currency (gold) out of the game economy. Everytime you pay an npc for something, e.g. salvage kits, keys, or skills, that money disappears out of the game. Everytime you kill a monster and it drops gold, money enter the game. The economy is in balance when equal amounts of money enter the game and leave the game.
Apparently Anet has determined that more money entered than exited, which would eventually have led to hyperinflation, and added more gold sinks to counteract this.

The keys, xp scrolls, and skill cost are all obvious gold sinks.

there was too much gold in the economy.
1. the point of sigils being expensive was to promote that teamliness feeling. Anet wanted to help, more sigil drops. Now, there are 10322351835 paying people to join their guild.
2. too many people have maxed out gold. even in wow, its hard to find level 60's that maxxed gold.

this is despite the fact that gold is not as important as in other online games...strange.

I guess I won't buy any skills until they stop this gold sink. Hopfully it's temporary.

The way I see it, you have two options. To gain new skills you either have to farm for exp or farm for gold, barring the creation of a new character just to run through and unlock things. It just so happens that farming gold is far easier than farming exp. It now takes me about half the time to get a new skill as it did previously.

Basically, I think this benefits end-game characters who are trying to obtain (note, not unlock) new skills on a current character, but might make the initial aquiring of new skills on new characters more difficult. That would encompass new characters created for the sole purpose of an unlocking run-through. However, with the permanent faction boosts, no one should be complaining anymore about unlocks. I'm only a very casual PvP player and I have no problem unlocking a great deal with faction.

To new players who are just starting out, this change will probably be harshest. I don't know how quickly the cost scales up to the cap of 1 plat, so I can't say for certain whether or not it's really a problem. The first time one should need to even worry about buying any number of skills is after switching secondaries, and by that point you've not only gotten your max armor (since you're already to Droknar's), but also your max weapons (collector's weapons FTW). What else is there that requires gold beyond this point besides vanity items? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the vanity items. I've got a storm bow, and several sets of 15k armor. The point is that there is little beyond this point that demands your gold. Previously I'd amassed over 200 plat solely because I was trying to earn some new skill points, and that's after I bought my 15k armors.

I'm quite glad to see that for once the thing that exists in abundance becoming useful and the things which were difficult to obtain are becoming more available.

Explosivebadger: Oh, MMORPGs need gold sinks, there's nothing bad about that. The downside of them is that they make it harder to become rich, the upside of them is that they maintain the value of the money you do manage to get hold of.

Also, with a bit of thinking one can avoid some gold sinks.

Jenosavel: It seems the scaling up of skill cost is very steep. I've got an avatar which got her first capture signet today, and by signet 3 or 4 I was already paying over 800 gold.

i think they raised the price to encourage players to PVP more often nd unlock it on theyre own(for pvp players that buy skills instead of unlocking) and again, instead of buying the skills take the time to do the quests and unlock the skilsl that way(for pve only players)

Then stop hoping. Look at the update. It's obvious that Anet is trying to make things more quest driven instead of gold driven. I have no doubt that we'll soon be seeing more skill quests. The thing is, it needs to be done in steps. As an example, people complained about rare drops and the mods and such, so now we have green weapons. Gold will become more and more irrelevant while going out and doing a quest or killing something will become more relevant.

and yet the poor still complains..........

Just grabing some henchmen and exploring, the gold drops were nice, I can see getting 1k was not bad and all the excessive stuff sold to merchants very well or worst the slavage raw materials (to merchant traders). I've notice much more gold and nice drops that I can sell to make a quick turn around to be able to purchase skills. From a romp in one zone 3 items that would sold to merchants for over 400 gold in one trip.

They increased the faction rewards so PvP-ers don't need to spend so much time in the PvE world... and created gold sinks for the PvE-ers so they have a reason to spend more time in the PvE world!!

Its actually cheaper for me to buy skills now with the skill points cost capped at 1,000 gold. Before the patch, each new skill already costs me 1,200+ gold

Furthermore with the new patch I have gained almost 30+ extra skill points due to the 15,000 exp for a new skill point instead of 20,400.

Regarding skill points changes, its a good update.
Thumbs up, ArenaNET.
Cheers.

You guys talk like its REAL LIFE Cash here, for god sake its a game with UNLIMITED amounts of pixel cash, items.

Quote by Numa Pompilius: "e.g. salvage kits, keys, or skills, that money disappears out of the game" thats just stupid to think that, its UNLIMTED. End of this money sink shiz.

It actually hurts the unlockers most. The casual player is usually happy running with a set and restricted skillset.