9/7/05 Sorrow's Furnace : Update Log

Not being able to change refund points on the fly does not bother me that much, but I can see where some people would be put off by this. I am just glad that you can refund/reassign them as much as you like. I use the same character for PVP and PVE and it would be a royal pain when you ran out of points especially when you are testing out multiple builds for PVP. I really like the increased faction for PVP also.

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To the folks who were complaining about having to pay to send guild invites: from what I understand, you only have to pay to invite "guests" into your guild, regular invites are still free.

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I sat there waiting from 10-12 pm eastern time for that darn update, and let me tell you... I LOVE THIS UPDATE.

I like the fact of 100g costs for inviting someone, it will put at least a slow down on blind invites (im sure those rich guilds wont be much affected at all, its not like its HARD to make 100g).

I like that increased costs to skills, it will stop the people from just mass buying every skill they want from every trainer they can and will make them be more selective and only take what they NEED. 1k actually seems like a great price on a skill and I have no trouble paying it (im actually poor and saving money for a fissure warrior helm, but still even for a new character I would not care, it makes skills seem actually more worth your while).

Grenths and sorrows? I been there within 2 hours of the update (we got lost the first time going the wrong way, went north of granite instead of south =\, dumbass lady said she knew the way *sigh*). But I will say I liked the places, very challenging indeed and it doesnt feel like endless grind, I like the idea of the green unique items (even if it does remind me of evil diablo 2, GRRRR, though i love you angelic set! *hugs*) not to mention sorrow's furnace looks ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS, even the parts that arent dark and firey, the green grassy areas (like the tomb of the rubicon quest) Look very well put together as well. Like the new monsters (but omg I am already hating dark titans with a PASSION, you kill them and they come back again but smaller but still higher level than you! they start level 28 and come back after death as slightly smaller level 24's, not to mention the frost titan comes back as 2 creatures, or at least it looked like that to me) But I hate that some monsters can rez now e.e that just makes the game a bit frustrating lol.

I love the idea of keys for chest, I was skeptical at first but the first chest I opened with the new key system gave me a rare air staff, though excited at first I am convinced that obviously different area/chests/keys give different items, because the times I have opened a chest and watching others, there have been a ASS-LOAD of air staffs in the shiverpeaks area and got one in sorrows furnace, so soon I hope to look for perdition rock chests <3.

I could care less about the faction, as I do very little pve with how long it originally took me to get faction, i still dont have 1000, though im sure i'll enjoy the fights more with more faction at stake and finally get my first pvp unlock.

Quests, havent tried them except the unknowable, unspeakable one about the tomb of the rubicon thing, it was challenging at first then very hard as one person had to stay behind to watch the dude and guard him as we got balthazate crystals, her and the guy got killed why we were gone so we were sent back to the deldrimor war camp.... DAMN!

No refund points anymore..... FINALLY! that was annoying for me to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO-kill for exp to get refund points.

PVP change: pets stay closer to their owners..... This one I am split on as my best character is a ranger beastmaster, I would like to have him upfront and me a bit behind away from the action, healing my pet and spamming feral lunge and scavenger strike, followed with brutal strike when they get low hp O_o.

Of course there will be naysayers, but less and less as more fixes are made. I was actually expecting a huge uproar over the harder UW =p.

My two copper coins

Anet said "spend all your skill points before the update".

I did that. My skills were totalling well over a plat each. The update comes along and LOWERS the cost of my skills. DAMNIT!

Yep ^^^^ thats me too.

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There are those of us who have mastered the art of using skill sets to their fullest potential, being able to adjust attributes on the fly is of critical importance in doing so.

This is a nerf all wrapped pretty package albeit but a nerf just the same and a huge one at that.

Obviously it was aimed at further undermining the soloer but it again like most other nerfs punishes the whole for the acts of the few, and this time the few absolutely did not deserve it. Waaaa!!!!! I have mastered the art of cheating and now I have to find a new way.

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I have to say I like this update a lot, particularly the permanent increases to faction gain in PvP and the fact that Priests are now present in the PvP lobbies.

I think this update did a good job of satisfying both camps (PvE vs. PvP) without making anyone settle for less. The PvE peeps still have to do a lot of work in PvE to unlock shiny new stuff, and those of us (like me) who don't care much for PvE now have a greater ability to unlock stuff we need for PvP without having to spend hours a day grinding Random Arena while all our guildmates are offline or otherwise occupied.

I think ArenaNet's made a good call here and I look forward to reaping the new rewards of the faction boost in GvG tonight...even if iQ will still eat us for breakfast in Tombs.

Although I empathize with those who like to make attribute changes outside towns (such as runners often do), I think overall it is a good tradeoff by not having annoying refund points.

This lets me experiment with my character and not worry about having a build that doesn't work well then trying to limp along for a few outings to gain some refund points and re-adjust my attribute points. I think this will encourage other players to try out different buildouts with their current characters and overall a good idea.

I think most changes are awesome and applaud ANet! However, please put in a high-level henchmen lineup in the low-level areas related to the Glint quests (as you should do in UW/FoW also!). It feels a bit hopeless to take on lvl28 with lvl4s...

I don't care what anybody says. Surrow's Furnace missionsare are better the real game.

Everytime I try to travel I get stuck on the loading screen now. I'm eternally trapped in the team arenas where I was the last time I logged off.

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