9/7/05 Sorrow's Furnace : Update Log

I cant Agree more, pander to the pvp and elite players some more Anet. You suck. Its a free update - and I think an awesome one, especially given that fact. Yes it does create a little more caste separation in the ways you noted but it should. Kicks the rest of us in the butt to get our characters developed to get there and gives players who have been in UW and FoW for ages something more to do. SF was meant for those that solved the original game the way I see it. To that end, good job Anet.

Love the interface changes in the Skills menu for example, and in quests. Love the fact that there arent any more refund points. Wasnt all that hard to tinker around and then earn them back, but this is SO much nicer. Keys are fun. I've wasted my money on them so far as they havent yielded anything to me worth the cost of the key, but I am hooked and I have seen some cool things come that way.

100gp to recruit a guild member? How's that set anyone back? Could have been 1 plat. Guilds should recruit with some care rather than spamming recruit messages anyway. I wouldnt think 100gp in and of itself would cause tremendous selective-ness, but if it does encourage a little less recruiting spam, good imho. I am disappointed in the lack of Hall updates though. About the only thing I find I can point at and wish was in this update - guild storage and auction system.

[edit] Characters slots! VERY unhappy when I saw no new slots. I forgot to mention that. Oh well. [/edit]

Have to go ascend a couple characters, work through the further areas etc. I'm a long, long way from actually seeing SF I imagine, but cheers to Anet for a job well done.

I cant Agree more, pander to the pvp and elite players some more Anet. You suck.

Green items unique to bosses? oh dear....anyone smell Diablo 2, farming, over pricing and an even eliter caste of players than before? me to.

This is one of the most messed up updates ever, the superior kits are a rip off, and you have to pay to invite peopleto your guild? your actually putting a cost on joining a guild, in a game called GUILD wars? u bloody idiots.

why not be useful and make ele not suck in pve? or make monk not the most essential overpowered single class in the game? yes, superior kits are a rip off. consider it an item for lazy players, that don't want to go everytime to the trader or for players that want to save space in inventory. it comes with a price.

the cost for joining a guild is:
a) a nice little extra moneysink
b) keeps people thinking of not inviting everyone blindly to their guild. maybe. probably not...

eles suck in pve? what is this, the new complainflavor of the month? I think rangers, necro's and mesmers have a far greater problem finding groups for pve then an elementalist. my fire nuker can find a group within 5 mins for sure. my ranger only when i lead a group myself.

monk in a beneficial position? absolutely, most team won't start without 2, and won't shun from 3. agreed, a big dependancy on monks. can't see a solution to this, except everyone playing monks like mad, so the shortage will be filled.

as for the green items...unless their stats are defenitely better, there is nothing wrong with some customization. the same was alrleady going with gold items, even though the collector items were often better. so big deal, they have their shiny 15-22 sword with +1 swordmanship and +12% above 50%. take a collector's item and you are the better and smarter player. But there is nothing wrong with being a dandy that likes some fashionly looking weapons.

As for the elite players, I'm sure they feel both happy with the increase and disappointed at the same time with the 'smaller then wished' increase. I'm sure they will compare it with PvE, stating skillpoins got faster there and the faction is still to slow. But faction is not equal to skillpoints... But I will stay mostly away from this discussion.

In conclusion, I do not agree with you mostly.

kind regards,
Makkert

- the nerfing of the ability to solo parts of UW sucks badly (WHY COULDN'T YOU EVEN LET US HAVE THE FIRST ROOM??? WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT SEEKING A SOLO PLAYING CHALLENGE IN A HARD AREA ANYWAY????) Now you have challenge to solo there, you should be happy.

In a town or outpost so no more on the fly adjustments outside of towns and outposts? Thats NOT a good thing it is another nerf! Has anyone tried to adjust their points outside of a town? If this IS the case (that you can't do it outside anymore), this is a BIG nerf.

Has anyone tried to adjust their points outside of a town? If this IS the case (that you can't do it outside anymore), this is a BIG nerf. I have tried it. And you can no longer adjust your attributes outside a town.

I love the cost to join the guild now, it will stop the game from being populated from billions of useless friend guilds that no one plays. The cost is only 100g, so it will in no way stop 3 or 4 people of RL friends from forming a guild. Why would you want to stop that? Its fun to have friends (which many preteen computer gamers don't really seem to understand). However, the cost WILL stop random invite spamming, which is quite a nice idea. Its a low enough cost to not bother serious invites, but enough to stop spammers. I'm happy with it.

In a town or outpost so no more on the fly adjustments outside of towns and outposts? Thats NOT a good thing it is another nerf! Geez, what a lame complaint! You now have the ability to rebuild your character at will with no cost involved, and you complain because you can't do it on the fly while exploring? Grow up! It's not a nerf.

From a player's POV, this is a great modification. However, from an RPG POV, it doesn't really make sense. There should be some cost to re-building your character. In real life, you don't spend a significant amount of time learning a profession and then up and change careers without some cost (e.g., starting from the bottom and having to earn your way up again).

Again, from a player's POV this is a great change because you no longer have to build up the refund bank anymore.

I haven't played the new areas yet, but from the sound of it (ignoring the spoiled brats who will complain about anything), it looks well worth the wait!