One last time - Solo Mo's have not been nerfed.

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Yamat
Krytan Explorer
• #21
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Originally Posted by Mithie
Prot bond still has its uses, especially on a secondary monk class.
Agreed... still works as a monk protector placed by a W/Mo on a teams Mo.
Phades
Phades
Desert Nomad
• #22
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
actually not really my dear.

you see i do not want to change the game just because some people can do something i cannot. i believe everyone should have fun in their own way. if it is fun for a solo monk to do 100 UW runs a day i could care less. it has no effect on me whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
i bet her warrior monk thinks it actually has a chance to be good now lol
So, its fine for a w/mo to not be good and your combination to be better than any others?

Wow, class act there my friend.
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nailz
Banned
• #23
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Originally Posted by Yamat
Agreed... still works as a monk protector placed by a W/Mo on a teams Mo.

allowing your monk to take 6 hits(MAX) before it completely drains you of all your energy and drops....ya, that's super useful. let me waste a slot on my skillbar for that phenomenal skill. For that matter why don't I just leave my other 7 slots empty.

Phades: Salja doesn't play a 105 build monk...what he was saying is that Sonya was griefing because she was pissed off that her WaMo wasn't the most effective farmer anymore.
Perishiko ReLLiK
Perishiko ReLLiK
Wilds Pathfinder
• #24
Everyone was making such a big deal over nerfing the monks... it's funny... it's only because it was the "well known" class that could, and still can solo underworld...

Just a clue for all you brain dead people out there. You can solo underworld without even having "Mo" with in your character. Grow some balls and test some things out... there are better builds that take alot less effort...

I've solo'd with my earth elementalist(although i dont do the "mesmer" spawning quest) *shux what a loss... lol*, and have a build being made to solo it with a ranger... no reason to state anything further then that... use your imagination.

After the ranger, comes my solo necro character (Could get tricky, might need the "mo" secondary for that one)
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
• #25
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Originally Posted by nailz
allowing your monk to take 6 hits(MAX) before it completely drains you of all your energy and drops....ya, that's super useful. let me waste a slot on my skillbar for that phenomenal skill. For that matter why don't I just leave my other 7 slots empty.
E/mo = compensated by energy storage and ether renewal.
N/mo = compensated by Offering of Blood/soul reaping
W/mo = compensated by stances which evade attacks.
Me/mo = compensated by inspiration line energy management skills.
R/mo = compensated by evasion stances, expertise, or marks' wager.

Any questions?
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nailz
Banned
• #26
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Originally Posted by Mithie
E/mo = compensated by energy storage and ether renewal.
N/mo = compensated by Offering of Blood/soul reaping
W/mo = compensated by stances which evade attacks.
Me/mo = compensated by inspiration line energy management skills.
R/mo = compensated by evasion stances, expertise, or marks' wager.

Any questions?
I still don't think WaMos could effectively hold up a prot bond...and I never said anything about other classes...I still think there are better skills to put in your skill bar that would benefit yourself and your monk far better than carrying around protective bond as a monk secondary....The monk has PLENTY of other skills they can use that do far more than protective bond does now.
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
• #27
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Originally Posted by nailz
I still don't think WaMos could effectively hold up a prot bond...and I never said anything about other classes...I still think there are better skills to put in your skill bar that would benefit yourself and your monk far better than carrying around protective bond as a monk secondary....The monk has PLENTY of other skills they can use that do far more than protective bond does now.
W/Mo's can easily maintain a prot bond with evasion stances or energy management stances like bonetti's. If you're playing a character strong in stamina and energy renewal, then prot bond outshines all the other self-preservation skills. Can you tailor a build around prot bond? No. Can you tailor prot bond so it complements your build? Most definitely.
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
• #28
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Originally Posted by BeatWolf
Even though the screen says "Bladed Aatax drops a Glob of Ecto" numb nuts..
Well you could have a second player named "Bladed Aatax" who dropped a glob of...


No? Haha, guess not
Frank The Tank
Frank The Tank
Frost Gate Guardian
• #29
This will only really affect those who can't design a build, my first new re-design worked just fine. Just need to be a little more careful and the bars move around a bit more, but it still works. With some more tweaking it will be no different than before, plus my stock of ectos will probably double or triple in value. Already went to 11K ea. in half an hour. Plus, all the gold storm bows and eternal shields, etc. will be instantly worth double.
RandomEngy
RandomEngy
Frost Gate Guardian
• #30
From what I hear, all you have to do is use a 55 and replace Protective Bond with Protective Spirit, and make sure to use Bonettis. Now why doesn't everyone just swap out that one skill, or use that one extra item, and continute on thier merry way soloing the hardest area in the game (meant to be a challenge for teams of 8) by using a cute trick they found on the internet. Then after it gets nerfed for real, maybe people that don't feel like using their PVP character slot, grinding a primary monk character to 20, buying a ton of expensive runes, then repetitivly abusing a combination of skills will be on equal footing with the rest.
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Pure Domination
Academy Page
• #31
Personally I´m not pissed about the fact the normal 55/105 build is nerfed (coz I use a different build). The thing that bothers me is the fact that this nerf WAS a direct strike against the farmers. PB is totally useless now. Imagine you put PB on a mate in PVP, that will give you -3 nrg each time he gets hit (unless you fire up Balthasar Spirit or the other one). That means you will have a VERY hard time to do something else than trying to hold PB active. Lets say your monk has 50 nrg. That means your mate can get hit 17 times, then you are out of energy. With a smiting opponent no problem to make these hits in a few seconds. Now what ? Spend one protector just for ONE other player ? No, you just drop PB from your skill bar. The the only reason for nerfing that skill can be the 55/105 build. But if Anet says something different....well....it sounds not very serious....
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Red Sonya
Desert Nomad
• #32
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
this will make red Sonya scream even louder for another NERF!!!

which she will not get thank god
And what makes you think that, I already know about Protective Spirt and have already started the move to change it also, cast time cost more energy, stuff like that. Removing the -50hp quest icon. Heh, another nerf is coming, this one did, what makes you think it will stop there? hahahaha muahahahahah.
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
• #33
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Originally Posted by Pure Domination
Personally I´m not pissed about the fact the normal 55/105 build is nerfed (coz I use a different build). The thing that bothers me is the fact that this nerf WAS a direct strike against the farmers. PB is totally useless now. Imagine you put PB on a mate in PVP, that will give you -3 nrg each time he gets hit (unless you fire up Balthasar Spirit or the other one). That means you will have a VERY hard time to do something else than trying to hold PB active. Lets say your monk has 50 nrg. That means your mate can get hit 17 times, then you are out of energy. With a smiting opponent no problem to make these hits in a few seconds. Now what ? Spend one protector just for ONE other player ? No, you just drop PB from your skill bar. The the only reason for nerfing that skill can be the 55/105 build. But if Anet says something different....well....it sounds not very serious....
Prot bond IS NOT useless. THERE IS a certain thing called energy management. Prot bond will NOT work vs. sustained dps. Prot bond WILL work against adren/light/SoJ spikes.
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dansamy
Chasing Dragons
• #34
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Originally Posted by Red Sonya
And what makes you think that, I already know about Protective Spirt and have already started the move to change it also, cast time cost more energy, stuff like that. Removing the -50hp quest icon. Heh, another nerf is coming, this one did, what makes you think it will stop there? hahahaha muahahahahah.
Prot spirit does not last long enough as it is to need a nerf. Now the -50hp quest item? Fine, take that. I got 2 -70hp icons in FoW in one night. (Too bad I didn't think about marketing them to folks making Invincimonks. I'd have made a fortune, lol!)
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lishi
Forge Runner
• #35
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Originally Posted by Mithie
Prot bond IS NOT useless. THERE IS a certain thing called energy management. Prot bond will NOT work vs. sustained dps. Prot bond WILL work against adren/light/SoJ spikes.
well pretective spirit work same with only 10 energy ...
Sereng Amaranth
Sereng Amaranth
Desert Nomad
• #36
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Originally Posted by dansamy
I got 2 -70hp icons in FoW in one night.
pics or its a lie
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what
Ascalonian Squire
• #37
if you are to replace PB with PS.. the only bad thing i could think off is that once PS ends and you try to recast it and gets interrupt.. you're screwed..
of course, there is a way to prevent the interruption...
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Pure Domination
Academy Page
• #38
you wont have massive nrg problems, so can even "spam" PS (fire up zealots be4). Since you get the +2 nrg each hit + the +5 from bonetti´s, you basicly have full nrg all the time.
Anita
Anita
Frost Gate Guardian
• #39
Mo/W with 55 build is still very viable for solo'ing UW. I already made mine to be able to. Pretty easily...just find out how yourself.
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Anton H
Ascalonian Squire
• #40
To save everyone from guessing (and to protect my rune investment)

Swap Essence Bond with Watchful Spirit
Swap Prot Bond with Prot Spirit.

For the win.