Everybody is Persectuted....

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Xue Yi Liang
Xue Yi Liang
Jungle Guide
#1
When I was a starting monk I used to think we were the only persecuted profession in the game. Well, after playing other classes I can rightfully say that every profession feels marginalized for some reason or another.

So, for the purpose of equality, I submit a list of reasons each profession feels persecuted - just so nobody thinks they're alone:

Monks-
-people gripe about how you can't heal/rez fast enough. How often do you hear - "I didn't get one heal -> you suck, monk!"
-when you do a good job your services are often taken for granted
-now you're resented more if you happen to be a 105/55 farming monk
-people think you have an infinite supply of energy
-Warriors hate you

Warriors-
-You W/Mos are accused of being unoriginal and n00bs because of the popularity of the build
-Since there are so many Warriors it's not always easy to find a group - "We already have 3 tanks - don't need another."
-People assume you're the one who aggroed everything
-Casters get mad because you can't block 9 enemies at once and protect them
-Monks hate you

Elementalists-
-Monks think you're a waste of healing because you take so much damage
-Between battles everyone acts as if your recharge times were zero
-You seem to be the last to get rezzed
-You're doing all the real damage but the Warriors act like they're the only heroes in the team

Mesmers-
-Since you're not a tank, healer or nuker most PUGs aren't interested
-You seem to be the last to get rezzed
-The only reason why that monk-boss was shut down was because of you - but you'll never get credit for it
-For some odd reason PUGs don't seem to listen to your advice (even though you might know the mission better than anyone else and have completed it as a Monk and Warrior before)
-Not a lot of "Godly" Mesmer stuff out there, it seems - even in the trade chat in LA

Necromancers-
-People think you're useless in UW and FoW - good luck in collecting Ecto if you can't find a party
-Even if they do choose you - it's only if you can bring Blood Ritual and/or Well of Power to help the monk(s)
-Since you're not a tank, healer or nuker most PUGs aren't interested
-People are always pissed because your minions are in their way
-Nobody says how cool your armor looks - but everyone will notice the Warrior's FoW armor or the Mesmer in lingerie.

Rangers-
-Even less popular for PUGs for UW and FoW than Necros
-People hate your pet
-After you place a trap and everyone agrees to have you pull the enemy - one fella ignores you and charges in - then everyone else follows to help him
-You drop Symbiosis and Fertile Season - and people say, "Hey! WTF? I have 1,024 health! Must be a bug in the game, cool!"
-You run in to pull a Shadow Monk with your bow - and then turn around to see that some W/Mo followed you!
-Nobody's nice to you until they realize you've got rez and you're the last one alive
-Since you're not a tank, healer or nuker most PUGs aren't interested

See? You're not alone. So suck it up and let's just play the game.
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Arthur Eld
Ascalonian Squire
#2
Amen.
Algren Cole
Algren Cole
Banned
#3
i've seen rangers and monks tank better than any warrior in the game.
FinebyMe
FinebyMe
Ascalonian Squire
#4
Wow... I dont take Monks for granted, I had a monk char once >_> peopel think you have unlimited Energy
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wolfy3455
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang
Rangers-

-After you place a trap and everyone agrees to have you pull the enemy - one fella ignores you and charges in - then everyone else follows to help him
-You run in to pull a Shadow Monk with your bow - and then turn around to see that some W/Mo followed you!
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I hate both of those. even good groups I'm in its like, "stay behind the traps". If its a decent group, the usually wait till the very end before they bother rushinh in front of the trap and rendering the prep time worthless.

The pulling thing is even worse. I've had people complain when multiple groups come forward. I'm sure it had nothing to do with them running forward like a henchman that wasn't called off on time.
aismailuk
aismailuk
Frost Gate Guardian
#6
Couldn't have said it better myself!

My ranger is consistently faced with such issues...!
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Dax
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
Good post ....I enjoyed reading it.

My fave character is a necro just cause she looks cool....
ZenPali
ZenPali
Ascalonian Squire
#8
Wow dude, well said!

The best thing to remember is: Diversify your PUGs! You'd be suprised how well a group can work together without having 3 tanks, 2 monks, and 3 nukers.
Xue Yi Liang
Xue Yi Liang
Jungle Guide
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinebyMe
Wow... I dont take Monks for granted, I had a monk char once >_> peopel think you have unlimited Energy
Yes! I forgot about that one - I just added it. Thx.
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Forboding Angel
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
Necros can deal heavy dmg and never run out of energy if they are played right.
natus
natus
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
Quote:
-Nobody says how cool your armor looks - but everyone will notice the Warrior's FoW armor or the Mesmer in lingerie.
sad but true

everyone is like "omg a warrior omg das a kewl armour..wtf, a necro...go'way gayman"
Mavrik
Mavrik
Forge Runner
#12
awsome post, I can so agree. Many times in a group, someone has yelled, "Stop standing around and cast fire storm! or Meteor Shower!" to which I simply click on my energy bar Energy 12 of 70 to explain that since they keep running from fight to fight, eventually I'm running out of energy casting meteor shower to knock down their attackers. I'm working on a mesmer build I think will be mesmer just for looks... and use a secondary skill as a primary lol. My Ranger has some trouble getting into groups, but I need to worry about more group beneficial skills and I'm curious about testing out some traps.
SOT
SOT
Banned
#13
Nice thread. agree with most of it, especially the ranger portion.

I think it is sad to know how this permeates.
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IlikeGW
Jungle Guide
#14
The real problem is that most of the people playing the game stink, and give that impression of their class. Thus you only get about 10% of any class really giving it their all, and the rest giving bad impressions whatever their class is.
chris_nin00
chris_nin00
Dun dun dun
#15
Hello,
My name is The Infamous Ranger...
And I have been persecuted. To let it go I sometimes cry. Sometimes I look for female dancers to get jiggy with. Sometimes I get some dwarven ale... then I get wasted. Then when I feel better I go to HoH and join a 'friendly group'. Then comes the persecuting..the cycle never ends. I hope people feel the same way and take a stand against persecuters everywhere. Nice post!

Lonely and Persecuted,
The Infamous Ranger
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moonshadow
Academy Page
#16
Wonderfully written, Xue Yi Liang! It's nice to know we are all equally persecuted.
Nessa
Nessa
Academy Page
#17
i want to say what sucks as my warrior sometimes is when the other warrior decided , oh traps.. bah how can those 4 traps that rangers repeatedly showed us she was casting help against all those guys..... i'm gonna run ahead of them instead of running back so the pulling works..... and then he bunches up most of the enemies in front of the traps and i wait for him to back up... cause the rest of the groupo is yelling at him to... but he doesn't so i have to go in help do some damge and tthe ele has started casting htere and the traps are useless.. the fight is really close but thanx to our monk no one dies... after the fight .......
R "why didn't you pull into the traps"
W2: "oh sorry i forgot i won't next time"
Me: good job guys close call... next time we utilize the traps.."

next fight..... goes the sdame way as the first!! rinse repeat
corax5
corax5
Krytan Explorer
#18
I think I have been witness to almost all of that, although I dont think its the proffesion that gets you the greif, its the fools that say that stuff in the first place, unfortunantly there are lots of people like that around.
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IPlayGuildWars
Academy Page
#19
my prot bond pve monk tanks like no other

22 damage mind shock, 11 dmg chain lightning, people in my party are liek WTF HAX MONK SUPPOSED TO STAY BACK AND NOT TAKE DAMAGE BUT U R NOT WTF
Neo-LD
Neo-LD
Desert Nomad
#20
Very nice. I think you should add (if we are going to include some pvp gripes)

Monk: Everyone attacks me. LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!Warriors are overpowered they kill me to fast nerf plz.


Warrior: No one attacks me. ATTACK ME DAMMIT!!!Monks are overpowered I can hack whack them for an hour they wont die nerf plz.