20 consecutive victories in Ascalon arena = 88 faction !!!

I think Anet should get rid of the bonus 2 faction for 5 wins in a row- some low level player may accidentally unlock something, and what then ?

ohh, that whole 2 faction will buy you a 3000 faction elite skill!

yeah, faction needs to be changed to that you can only unlock 15k armor for your pvp characters. i mean really, what is this whole player skill matters more than time played business? the people who have had the game since april should be able to beat anyone who just picked up the game, regardless of their skill.

I think they're fussy about making sure people don't benefit from being good. Heavans forbid someone who took the time to make a good build get a benefit out of it... that might sound too much like skill over time played.

dogs sleeping with cats?

Woo! 88 faction! In 2 hours you could have 252 faction!!! EXPLOIT

This blatant lack of grind MuSt B3 STOPPED ! NOW!

No sure if you were joking or not, but HELL NO!

You want 15K armor? Play the game as a PvE character, and leave the PvP to their stand boring armor sets.

You get a lot less faction from being bad...

0 faction for losing? Gee, I think I'd rather win.

Arenas shouldn't have faction at all... Neither should Hall of Heroes since it has its own awards in and of itself. ONLY Guild battles... OH that's right That's practically the way it is already. isn't it. Must be why its called GUILD Wars.

Play a few Guild battles and WIN and you find that you get more then enough faction to get nearly anything. I started working on weapon upgrades now. all my runes are gone from the list from faction and PvE unlocks... I suppose I could get a couple elite skills I'm missing. but really its easier to capture them then to waste my time unlocking with faction just for that...

I just get sick and tired of waiting hours for a GvG match cause all PvP players ever want to do is the Tomb.

Tomb Tomb Tomb Tomb Tomb Tomb Tomb Tomb Tomb Tomb Tomb TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB TOMB!!!

Holy Rusted Armor Batman... The dam favor of the gods is given to get them to go away and leave their bodies alone!!!!

Oh god, what have you done..... We aren't going to hear the end of this comment ever again. "OMG PVPERS WANT 15K ARMOR NOW..."

See, it has already started....

I don't see what is wrong with it. If PVP and PVE are equal, then why do pve'rs feel they need to keep things for them selves. Point of PVP builds is rinse and repeat. PVE is rinse and hope it is clean.

Playing for hours on end to get 50 ecto's may seem like fun for a PvEr But not for the casual person.

Keep in mind that I play both.

In the case of the Fissure armor, I couldn't care less about them, too much of a grind.

In the case of 15K armor (Normal ones) again I don't feel PvP should have them. Why would they need them? People in PvE save up to get them, so its rewarding, there no need for PvP to have them.

If anything they should allow PvP to unlock special looking PvP only armor

grand idea! But yea, I don't think they should just 'get' them right away, I think they should earn them with faction, like 10k faction per piece. Thats LOT of playing before a full set.

Haha, someone summoned the ghosts of those fallen in the grindwars, and look how the minions of the Evil Lord of Grind panick and run...

pvp players want 15k armor ... pvp players want 15k armor ... to arms, Legions of Evergrind, to ARMS...

you cracked me up.
Legions of Evergrind? that would make a great guildname, rotfl.

Man I wish the act of purchasing a 15k armor piece unlocked that piece for when you made PVP characters. And the act of dying a piece of armor unlocked that dye color.

what then indeed!rofl

Did you ever see so much of those that "have" wanting those that "have not" to have nothing? lol

I like the idea of unlocking fissure/15k armor for the PVP only characters. I've already got more faction points saved up than I can spend, so I need something else to spend them on. I wouldn't be opposed to a 10k to 15k faction point rule to unlock a piece, sounds perfectly fair to me. What good are faction points if you have nothing to spend them on?

I agree totally, althought they need to fix it so the skills don't cost so much.

I can't believe that you guys missed my obvious sarcasm. I'm in favor of a 37x increase of faction, not some ridiculous 15k armor unlocking for PvP characters sceme. I could not care less about 15k armor for PvP characters. What I do care about, however, is for new players to have the ability to pick up the game and not have to grind 600 hours to be competitive in PvP.