Is it that Rangers are undervalued, or too abundant?

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brahmabull754
Ascalonian Squire
#1
I have beaten the game as a W/Mo and now I'm in the desert with my R/E. I went through hell to cap Barrage from Markis in Iron Mines (I took a full group of henchies from Ice Caves to Copperhammer then to Iron Mines as a lvl 18 ranger, and now I'm infused before I'm ascended ) But I'm on my final desert quest which happens to be Thirsy River, and I just cannot get into a group. From my own personal experience, if ANY of the desert quests needs a ranger, it's Thirsty River. Is it that people are ignorant to the uses of a ranger, or has there just been an explosion of rangers of late?

P.S. My build is Barrage, Power Shot, Savage Shot, Distracting Shot, Enervating Charge, Troll Unguent, Storm Chaser, and Conjure Lightning. I have full druid armor, and a max purple lightning bow with +20 health and +12% while enchanted.
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Lorelei
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
herd mentality lately. Nature Renewal :P so too many rangers likely.
Anarkii
Anarkii
Jungle Guide
#3
Start a group of your own? I've never had trouble getting into a group...and I've been playing since the first week as a ranger.
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Axle_Fieshe
Banned
#4
making a group of your own works best. i made a full group in a couple of mins
RTSFirebat
RTSFirebat
The Humanoid Typhoon
#5
I always end up making my own party, people are d**** and tend to not give necros, rangers, etc... a go... its all WARRIOR this and MONK that.

Last night I entered the UW (Paid the 1K myself) to go down some quests... there was 6 of us, all rangers to begin with... quickly reduced down to only 4 due to quiters, and finally only 3 when one went AFK.

But we did it nevertheless, and I got a nice Hearty Black Widow, which I named Carlotta

Needless to say it rocked, massive damage output due to traps, choking gas and apply posion, and no need for monks due to us all being able to self heal, and no need for tanks since rangers have good armor.

The way I see it Rangers are highly underrated.
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Da Outlaw
Ascalonian Squire
#6
Rangers are either the most wanted, or the least wanted depending on where you are. If you want to go to the Underground, there are a ton of trapper groups that'd love to have you, also many groups know rangers want to go there to get a spider pet, so usually they are welcomed. Also, rangers are always wanted in Hell's Precipice, as Winter does wonders.
However, go to just about any where else, and you'll be sitting on the bench along with Joe Mesmer and Suzy Necro.

Rangers are as underrated in PvP as anyone, but like all the misfit classes, they have some pretty powerful skills that can be used in any situation, which can make or break a party.
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Excer
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
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Originally Posted by Da Outlaw
Rangers are as underrated in PvP as anyone, but like all the misfit classes, they have some pretty powerful skills that can be used in any situation, which can make or break a party.
are you kidding? rangers are definately not underrated in pvp. have you seen all the spirit spam teams? besides, most teams want at least 1 ranger just for soil and disruption. its kinda taking over the role of a hammer war
RTSFirebat
RTSFirebat
The Humanoid Typhoon
#8
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Originally Posted by Excer
are you kidding? rangers are definately not underrated in pvp. have you seen all the spirit spam teams? besides, most teams want at least 1 ranger just for soil and disruption. its kinda taking over the role of a hammer war
Ranger using whiring defence and throw dirt would take on any warrior... I think the problem is people don't know how to use Rangers and other so-called misfit groups correctly and thus consider anything that not a Warrior, Nuker or Monk worthless.
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Sorena Mascar
Frost Gate Guardian
#9
I am also a R/E and I have seen some problems getting into groups.

What I do if it is taking too long but you see people asking to get into groups is to start my own group.

It used to be worse. I have noticed lately I can get into groups fairly quick.


Sorena Mascar
GranDeWun
GranDeWun
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
Believe me, if a group doesn't think a ranger is useful for Thirsty River, you don't want to go with that group...
Ollj
Ollj
Jungle Guide
#11
get choking gas and a good non-ranger group!
jdwoody
jdwoody
Krytan Explorer
#12
Two nights ago as a ranger I started a group to kill Glint, I accepted everyone that whispered me and ended up with 3 rangers out of the 6 slots filled when someone wrote to the rest of the team:

"Boot one of the rangers and pick up another warrior and 2 monks"

I typed:

"No"

and he/she left, we picked up an ele and 2 henchmen healer/prot and walked through the mission and killing of Glint, it was so easy it was borderline boring, but luckily everyone was really cool...

Play your ranger and have fun, you don't want to be in groups that insist on cookie cutter makeups, they don't always work out anyway...
Algren Cole
Algren Cole
Banned
#13
it's easy....ranger is a tough class to play, just like mesmer and necro...and the abundance of people don't use the class correctly..often times resulting in failed missions or a harder time for everyone else having to pick up their slack. This leads people to believe that the ranger is just useless, which certainly isn't the case.

it's quite easy to make your ranger completely ineffective...go try to make a warrior ineffective..it's damn near impossible to screw up a warrior build..
MSecorsky
MSecorsky
Furnace Stoker
#14
Since I started amy Ranger I've been using him exclusively. Think I finally figured out the trapper mode... can do quite well in the underworld in groups, and with QZ, EW and SQ going can flip out traps at a dizzying pace.

PvP... well, let me just say that Ranger's are indeed hard to master, yet quite fun.
Algren Cole
Algren Cole
Banned
#15
MSecorsky...grab yourself a nice +energy wand and +energy protective icon for trapping and bump that Energy up..you'll be even more effective.

with my wand/icon weapon set and my druid armor equipped i have 56 Energy -1 degen.
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salja Wachi
Banned
#16
Choking gas is a MUST for thirsty. add that to your bar.

then go find a better group lol. nothing interrupts like poison gas. 12 seconds if your WS is at 15
BigTru
BigTru
Jungle Guide
#17
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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Ranger using whiring defence and throw dirt would take on any warrior...

Wild Blow and Mend Ailement
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Diomedes
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
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Wild Blow and Mend Ailement
Thank you BigTru. I don't see why a lot of people seem to assume that their enemy would just stand there and do nothing while being beaten on.

-Diomedes
Bu7ch
Bu7ch
Academy Page
#19
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
MSecorsky...grab yourself a nice +energy wand and +energy protective icon for trapping and bump that Energy up..you'll be even more effective.

with my wand/icon weapon set and my druid armor equipped i have 56 Energy -1 degen.
This may be a dumb question as my primary character since GW came out was a R/E but how can you uses a wand/icon while using the bow?

Edit: I'm an idiot, I see what you mean - switch weapons for planting the traps.
ratatass
ratatass
Lion's Arch Merchant
#20
Yes I had the same problem as well.


Take your time spot some other rangers and go for a 4x ranger team + Lina and Alesia. Thirsty river will be a breeze. Show some responsibility and take Healing spring.

Ask them if they mind using the same type bow. Flat bow works great in this mission.

You can't fail.

ratatass