'Perfect' definitions

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Calnaion Blackhawk
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
can every please contribute and define 'perfect' as im annoyed by the amount of people putting 'perfect' weapons and they are not,

perfect sword - [15-22][Req8][+15% while health ABOVE 50%][HP +30]
Perfect Vampiric anything [ Health Degen 1, health Gained 5]
TheTim
TheTim
Ascalonian Squire
#2
11-22 dmg for staffs
6-28 dmg for axes
19-35 dmg for hammers
15-28 dmg for bows

Skill Enhancing Upgrades (like sword pommel of swordsmanship)
20% chance to increase skill

Defense Upgrades
+5 Armor

Warding Upgrades (ie: armor vs physical)
+7 armor (vs _______)

Health Upgrades (staff head, staff wrapping etc...)
+30 Health

Armor Penetration Upgrades (sundering)
+10 with 10% chance
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Merrial
Ascalonian Squire
#3
I had the same question a while back and here is the info I got.

Sword / 15-22 Damage / 1.33 seconds
Axe / 6-28 Damage / 1.33 seconds
Hammer / 19-35 Damage / 1.75 seconds
Bow / 15-28 Damage / varies
Wand / 11-22 Damage / 1.75 seconds
Staff / 11-22 Damage / +10 Energy / 1.75 seconds
Shield / 16 Armor N/A
Focus / +12 Energy N/A

Thanks again for whoever gave me this. :thumbsup:
Anarkii
Anarkii
Jungle Guide
#4
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Originally Posted by Calnaion Blackhawk
can every please contribute and define 'perfect' as im annoyed by the amount of people putting 'perfect' weapons and they are not,

perfect sword - [15-22][Req8][+15% while health ABOVE 50%][HP +30]
Perfect Vampiric anything [ Health Degen 1, health Gained 5]
Both of your definitions are wrong btw.
Theres nothing such as a perfect sword. Some prefer h>50, some enchanted, others stance. The Min Req is 7, not 8 for max damage. HP+30 is not the best pommel to put on.

Perfect Vampiric Axe haft and sword hilt are 3:1, not 5:1.

If you like, make a list of MAX damage items and upgrades, not perfect.
Drav3n
Drav3n
Ascalonian Squire
#5
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Originally Posted by Anarkii
Both of your definitions are wrong btw.
Theres nothing such as a perfect sword. Some prefer h>50, some enchanted, others stance. The Min Req is 7, not 8 for max damage. HP+30 is not the best pommel to put on.

Perfect Vampiric Axe haft and sword hilt are 3:1, not 5:1.

If you like, make a list of MAX damage items and upgrades, not perfect.
True...but perfects have the most "wanted" mods at the best they can be.
SOT
SOT
Banned
#6
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Originally Posted by TheTim
Health Upgrades (staff head, staff wrapping etc...)
+30 Health
+35
Anarkii
Anarkii
Jungle Guide
#7
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Originally Posted by SOT
+35
+30 is the max upgrade for health.Where you got the +35?
TheTim
TheTim
Ascalonian Squire
#8
+35 health?

Never seen one of those as an upgrade. Maybe you are thinking of the health buffs on shields. Which I've seen up to +45 (while hexed or enchanted) and +30 always.
Shandoo Bilari
Shandoo Bilari
Academy Page
#9
All wrong by my and most other trader definitions:

Perfect weapons are the ones that have flat +% damage that is NOT dependent on another req such as health, while enchated, while hexed.

'+% damage health > 50' is not a perfect weapon.

But I suppose the argument is arbitrary as it is subject to opinion.
Algren Cole
Algren Cole
Banned
#10
uhm..'perfect' = the weapon the best suits your needs....there is no universal perfect in this game.
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noblepaladin
Krytan Explorer
#11
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Originally Posted by Shandoo Bilari
All wrong by my and most other trader definitions:

Perfect weapons are the ones that have flat +% damage that is NOT dependent on another req such as health, while enchated, while hexed.

'+% damage health > 50' is not a perfect weapon.

But I suppose the argument is arbitrary as it is subject to opinion.
Unfortunately many people find those weapons less desirable than something with +15% > 50%hp because they inherently come with -5 energy, -1 energy regen, or -10 armor when attacking, so there are a lot of people who would disagree that it's "perfect". I think the problem with "Perfect" is that it implies the best, and there is no best weapon for all situations.
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ShinJin Kahn
Academy Page
#12
Perfect is a term used by players to let other players know the mod or weapon they have is "maxed" out, max % max damage, max whatever,

"perfect" means "best as it can be".
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Lorelei
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
I disagree with Shinjin. Perfect means "without flaw", not just "best as it can be". The later is just "best" yet still may have flaws.

But it is semantic
Shandoo Bilari
Shandoo Bilari
Academy Page
#14
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Originally Posted by Shandoo Bilari
But I suppose the argument is arbitrary as it is subject to opinion.
Yeah, after seeing the same weapon a gazillion times, I just find the flat damage to be the 'rarest" therefore they are what I would deem 'perfect'. The negative attibutes associated with them can for the most part be offset to a degree buy mods (ie -10 while attacking::+5 armor mod).

But since we were talking about what people call 'perfect' I was of the thought that we were not talking about 'max damage' weapons. /shrug
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ShinJin Kahn
Academy Page
#15
well, wouldn't you say a 10/10 sundering mod was perfect?, there nothing better then 10/10.
Shandoo Bilari
Shandoo Bilari
Academy Page
#16
But that is a perfect mod not a perfect weapon.

/gets back on the merry-go-round of interpretation.
Algren Cole
Algren Cole
Banned
#17
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Originally Posted by ShinJin Kahn
well, wouldn't you say a 10/10 sundering mod was perfect?, there nothing better then 10/10.
Vampiric 5:1 is better than 10/10 sundering, for my use...perfect is relative to the buyer.
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Lorelei
Frost Gate Guardian
#18
I think the original poster had a beef about people called a weapon "perfect" when it is just one of the "best" weapons out there.
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ShinJin Kahn
Academy Page
#19
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
Vampiric 5:1 is better than 10/10 sundering, for my use...perfect is relative to the buyer.
well a quater pounder with cheese is better then a 10/10 sundering, but whats that go to with anything right?.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing moron.
Algren Cole
Algren Cole
Banned
#20
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Originally Posted by ShinJin Kahn
well a quater pounder with cheese is better then a 10/10 sundering, but whats that go to with anything right?.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing moron.

that made alot of sense...I'm glad that you have such difficulty understanding rudimentary thought process.