A message from Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray has posted this message on the Guild Hall Forums as an answer to the concerns of PvE players after the wednesday update:

I just wanted to let all of you know that I read through this thread, and I understand what you're saying. It's a very difficult missions, really, to make a game that appeals, in equal measure, to those who play PvP only, PvE only, and a mix of the two. I believe that most of you do grasp the difficulty of the mission. And I think that most of you also know that we're working on this very hard, and we absolutely will not short one side of the equation in favour of the other.

We have a team who is working on all sorts of things. They may address Point A one day, and Point B another. But please know that we hear the concerns, and in fact we were discussing them just a few days ago. The challenge that I see, as a player and an admitted "cool item collector" type of player (when I'm PvEing) is that we do not intend to have overpowering items in the game. We aren't going to hand off hammers with 160 damage, or spells that kill everything within a 5 mile radius. PvE players might think "Why not? What does it hurt?" but Guild Wars is unique, and it is intended to appeal to, and be pleasurable for, both PvE and PvP players, and neither operates in a vacuum. Trust me, my PvE characters want the Bow of Burning with +1 gazillion fire damage, but getting that just isn't going to happen.

The bottom line is we're listening and we will address your concerns. I can't promise we'll address every concern with precisely the solution or suggestion that you've offered, but it's great of you to share your thoughts and always know that we consider this a high priority and an important goal.

Link: http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/show...7&page=3&pp=25

Hope this helps

A statement from ArenaNet, orgasmic wootcakes!!

I am not surprised by a response to all the aggro that has been posted (myself included in the posters) but it is heartwarming.

Thanks OP and Gaile Gray.

Watch this space folks.

Very cool! I think they are doing a great job. I love this game. Let's face it, this is a game not an epiphany. It is not meant to satisfy our every longing, lol

is it just me or does the word "orgasmic" when said by a beautiful woman excite you too?

that being said this is what they have been saying in not so many words all along. the nex update will involve PvE as they mentioned 3 weeks ago

Yayyyy ANet!

Urm, i'm a guy.

As for the next update....can't wait

rotflmao well then obviously that is not your picture :P i fully retract my statement lol

one problems is that they think the PVE'ers want uber weapons when we just want the drops back. Its not like we expect to find a 5-1 vamp bow string everytime we go out but just to find something instead of 42 gold and some basic white misc stuff.

IMO as I stated in another thread the way to curb the prices is not by nerfing it all but flooding it for a while so the supply/demand reverses roles and causes everyone to drop prices. Drop less gold and more items to make using the traders and trade system mandatory but drop enough that nothing EVER costs over 100k.

I just want to go out with my guild or in a random party and have fun seeing stuff drop. for anyone not just me, I have 3 characters with 15k armor and my 4th there is no shot in hell of getting because I don't farm...much..anymore.

I just want the drops to be more balanced. and as I stated before, they said there are no uber weapons and everything can be obtained...true but shady true. Why because some items can not be had by the casual gamer and if they want to keep a pve crowd around for the expansions that needs to change.

In 4 end game characters i have had probably a total of 10 gold Weapons (not counting the runes because thats how i made my money in the great rune days) And not a single one of them was ever at >50% Health weapon. In fact i've never had a weapon I could sell over 10k and right now I can't afford even to get a good weapon for my warrior because I have 23k thats it after 4 characters and using the appropriate gold sinks (armor) I have not enough left to get a decent weapon because A. I can't afford one B. I'm a horrible farmer of critters C. They don't drop for me ever

And its frustrating. I like the feeling of finding something, and no I don't care if 1million people have the same thing, this is mine and I found it.

My solution: Invert the drop tables for 1 day watch the market prices crumble as everyone is bringing in gold weapons and sup runes. Flood the market and bring it down to normal price. Supply/Demand is saying there is not enough of the "cool wanted" weapons dropping that its causing a diablo2 esque market and it will only continue to get worse as the game has only been out a few months.

I don't post much on these forums but seeing Gaile's response like everyone wants the uber spells of armageddon is wrong. We want the consistancy of fun drops for all. If you flood the market then gold value goes back to normal, no one pays for crap on ebay. The botters become a worthless annoyance and harm nothing and can easily be banned. The economy goes to a more stable version of itself where prices are more where intended.

I'm sorry for the rant and all but I get tired of finding a 8-14 raven staff on any shiverpeaks missions. The economy is on a spiral that will drive new players off as they can't obtain money, they cant get that big payday item. And so they leave after they play through the game once.

Or i'm just old and stupid....which is possible

roflmao. Is that embarassing to mistake someones gender or what...

Good point dinglenut, good point.

Gaile Gray message on Guild Hall Forums might be about replies in that forum but they are certainly not about replies in here, I dont see anyone asking for "swords of instant kill" but that we are not forced to grind as much because farming became grind.

PvE complain appears to be about the ecomony being shoot to hell with materials trader prices being lower that their craft price, ale stop being a gold sink because there is simply not much gold to spend on such a overpriced item.

Ok, she didn't even say why they did it.......that's rather annoying. And I don't like how she put it off like we're complaing because we can't get uber weapons . All I want is some gold to update my armour, and by myself a new new weapon. I don't even care what it is so long as it's max damage and looks good. Plain old max damage weapon. Is that so much to ask for? I hope she'll post a more explanitory post here at gwg.

The solution is soo easy.
The whole thing is an illusion anyway.
PvE player gets new blade of death dealing at lvl 40 it does 300 dam per hit. Makes PvE player think yay I'm hard, but the creatures he is fighting actually have 3000hp each so in the end it takes 10 hits to kill it and erm at the start when you are lvl 10 the creatures take 10 hits to kill also.

You don't have to put in new items to cater for this, just adjust the PvE monsters accordingly.
An example is the lich at the end, it is lvl 30, but weapons actually do huge damage, but he has shed loads of HP to compensate.
99% of players are players and don't have a clue or care about games design and implementation, they see 300 dam and go 'yay uber'.
Using the existing dynamics you just make some critters with low ac / high hp, and also make the + x% against dwarfs, more useful.
It won't be that easy to implement of the bat, but it can be done easily without major amendments to the game or items.
15% bonus when I am doing 12 dam does't mean anything, but 15% when I am doing 90 dam does.

I would think that men playing female characters with female names (essentially ROLE PLAYING a female...) would be more so.....

Not saying this is the case here....but its all too often the female characters in the game are being played by men...and I really don't understand it

Yes, i have more female characters than male.

Just waiting for the sexy lingerie to hit the shelves...i can dream

And then the PvE player takes that weapon into the PvP arenas, and that's when the trouble starts.

Tactical Delusions, I thank you for blessing my day with the delightful phrase:

Orgasmic wootcakes!

Aye, tactical is HOT!

Not if the weapon is only good against specific races such as Trolls, Charr, Plants, etc ...
Why not have an Uber Weapon of Trollslaying?

I just got to the Grotto where the 15K armor chunks are for the first time. Haven't been playing long enough for massive wealth or to have been spoiled by drops of gold raining down, so for me "nerfed" drops are more the standard than the outrage. From this perspective, I like the way they are now. Yeah, my ranger is running around with his Icy Short bow of Crap, but he's doing OK, and should I come across something better... well, it'll mean something more than running to the corner trader and buying one. Same with the 75K armor set... I may never wind up with the set, but knowing that my 7.5K armor is just as good makes that ok. So let me ask you this.. if the drops were always as they are now... well, go with it from here...

[QUOTE=Pandora's box...or spells that kill everything within a 5 mile radius...[/QUOTE]

ok ok I'll relent. One mile radius will be ok.