UW Solo Mo/W Build and Tutorial

Use one that you have already used, you won't get + attribute points for it, but you get -75 health. Heh, I didn't realize you can apply two superiors of same type.

Its the same idea low health+protective spells+Healing breeze or mending and I ran and got spellbreaker to stop disenchants. Granted I use a Mo/Me and do arcane echo+spellbreaer for longer time. I am lvl 20 with him now (My first run I gained 10 levels). At lvl 20 its a piece of cake. I can even do the coldfirers if I try. I also use a few tricks to make my build more powerful (think refund points and multiple head picecs and weapons/focus) So, let's say, when you buff yourself up with enchantments, you put on your armor with sup rune, your +1 hat and your +1 weapon, you cast all of them at attribute level 17, then you change your armor, adjust your attributes using the refund points for maximum damage and go to war? Awesome.

My guess is that the number for protbond doesn't start at a clean 6 and end at a clean 3, hence making 3/12 = 0.25/lvl calculations false. Thats the only explanation really. Yeah, I think the same. Let's hope ANet won't re-calculate the formula...

It doesn't work like you wrote. At 13 Protection (2,75 in my calculation) Protective Bond still takes 3 Energy. At 14 though (2,5 in my calculation) it will take away 2 Energy.

My guess was that rounding UP occours from 0.99 to 0.51 and rounding DOWN from 0.5 to 0.01. But with this logic you would get an Energy loss of 1 Energy per hit at 18 in Protection which is unreachable.

@Racthoh: could your Warrior and jelly's monk lay waste to the Underworld together? Actually, 18 is possible. Some shields (I've only seen one or two) that have a chance for +1 when using skills. Although I guess the real question is whether or not they would be able to stack.

And as for my warrior being able to solo with Jelly, our skillsets somewhat conflict. Balthazar's would be mighty expensive to cast if it required 30% more energy.

Edit: Coincidently, I have a shield with +1 to protection prayers in my bag.

I've been working on this too - I like Divine Boon because with 105 hp it basically does a full heal every time, and with only 1/4 second casting time I can even get one off in a malestrom!! Also it means I don't need to spend anything in Healing Prayers. The Dryders are a bit too much to handle though - they take too long between casts so I have no energy regen. I also added Shield of Judgement - it's awesome for creating time windows to cast Balthazar's without interruption, and it does massive Holy damage (50 plus knockdown every time they attack) that ignores armor. What skill set are you using? I see the OP build, but it would be cool to have a summarized Divine Boon / Shield of Judgement Build.

Actually, 18 is possible. Some shields (I've only seen one or two) that have a chance for +1 when using skills. Although I guess the real question is whether or not they would be able to stack.

And as for my warrior being able to solo with Jelly, our skillsets somewhat conflict. Balthazar's would be mighty expensive to cast if it required 30% more energy.

Edit: Coincidently, I have a shield with +1 to protection prayers in my bag. afaik sword/rods don't come with a +1 modifier? (I could be completely wrong).. i think this is the same case for enchantments last 20% longer (I could be compeltely wrong there too)

but saying that they did exist, the best you could get would be 20% chance and 20% chance so the odds of them going at the same time would be 4%?

its definately a cool idea to take advantage of the large amounts of XP and respec a bunch.. does lvl 17 mending give 5 pips of regen?

also some changes ive been thinking about-- maybe bringing in spell breaker somehow?

also peace and harmony:
Elite Enchantment spell. For 62 seconds, target ally gains +1 Energy rengeneration. Peace and harmony ends if player attacks or casts a spell that does not target an ally.
Cost: 5 At: 1 Cooldown:45

Shield of Judgement just owns. Massive damage at 50 holy every time they attack (including ranged attacks) and it lasts 20 seconds. Can kill most things just by itself. Add a Balthazar's every 15 seconds and everything dies.
That build is interesting.. I have 2 problems with it though:

1. No Bonetti's. Bonetti's has saved my ass so many times against those damnable squids... I love it.

2. Knockdowns. Knockdowns for this are bad. Yes, they take 50 damage, but they aren't hitting you as often which kinda blows.

The Divine Boon version of Jelly's (AMAZING) build is much better IMO. Aataxes are easy either way, but popping on Bonetti's for a few seconds then spamming the hell out of Divine Boon kills those Grasping Darknesses EXTREMELY fast. With 16 smiting prayers they're taking 40 damage every 1/4-1/2 second... 80-160 DPS is a lot better than 50 and a knockdown, plus by the time you need energy they're either dead or bonetti's is ready for a quick tap.

Another note on fighting squids (Grasping Darknesses)... NEVER use Bal's Aura. ALWAYS put Zealot's fire up and cast Blessed Signet before going in. Until they're dead, keep spamming that divine boon. With their energy drain, you'll lose energy anyways. Might as well go towards hurting them. Even when energy is at 1-4, spam DB. Countless times I've been at 20 health and managed to squeak a DB through at the last second. Use bonetti's as often as possible.

afaik sword/rods don't come with a +1 modifier? (I could be completely wrong).. i think this is the same case for enchantments last 20% longer (I could be compeltely wrong there too) Oh well that just ruins everything now doesn't it.

The Divine Boon version of Jelly's (AMAZING) build is much better IMO. Aataxes are easy either way, but popping on Bonetti's for a few seconds then spamming the hell out of Divine Boon kills those Grasping Darknesses EXTREMELY fast. With 16 smiting prayers they're taking 40 damage every 1/4-1/2 second... 80-160 DPS is a lot better than 50 and a knockdown, plus by the time you need energy they're either dead or bonetti's is ready for a quick tap. You forget (or never knew) that there is a .75 second after cast so you can only use Divine Boon every second, not every 1/4 of a second.

its definately a cool idea to take advantage of the large amounts of XP and respec a bunch.. does lvl 17 mending give 5 pips of regen? Mending:
"While you maintain this enchantment, target ally gains health regeneration of +1-3."

So, +1 at 0 Healing Prayers, +3 at 12 Healing Prayers, which gives 2/12 = +0,17 pips of regen per point invested. I guess you can have +4 regen at 15 (at that point you have a theoritical +3,5 pips of regen which might be rounded up to +4...)
One thing is sure though, you can't have +5 pips of regen even with 18 points in Healing.

Mending:
"While you maintain this enchantment, target ally gains health regeneration of +1-3."

So, +1 at 0 Healing Prayers, +3 at 12 Healing Prayers, which gives 2/12 = +0,17 pips of regen per point invested. I guess you can have +4 regen at 15 (at that point you have a theoritical +3,5 pips of regen which might be rounded up to +4...)
One thing is sure though, you can't have +5 pips of regen even with 18 points in Healing. its +3 at 8 healing prayers i believe (my skill calc agrees w/ you but ingame is what matters).. 13 gives the +4 regen... im going to try and track down a +1 healing prayers 20% and see if it works..

edit** yeah lvl 17 mending still yields 4 pipes

its +3 at 8 healing prayers i believe (my skill calc agrees w/ you but ingame is what matters).. 13 gives the +4 regen... im going to try and track down a +1 healing prayers 20% and see if it works.. If Mending was enough to keep you alive and Balthazar's Spirit alone could counter the energy loss from Protective Bond you would be able to build a godly character (against melee-heavy, non-disenchanting opponents, at least) that ANet would nerf the day it appears.

That build is interesting.. I have 2 problems with it though:

1. No Bonetti's. Bonetti's has saved my ass so many times against those damnable squids... I love it.

2. Knockdowns. Knockdowns for this are bad. Yes, they take 50 damage, but they aren't hitting you as often which kinda blows.

The Divine Boon version of Jelly's (AMAZING) build is much better IMO. Aataxes are easy either way, but popping on Bonetti's for a few seconds then spamming the hell out of Divine Boon kills those Grasping Darknesses EXTREMELY fast. With 16 smiting prayers they're taking 40 damage every 1/4-1/2 second... 80-160 DPS is a lot better than 50 and a knockdown, plus by the time you need energy they're either dead or bonetti's is ready for a quick tap.

Another note on fighting squids (Grasping Darknesses)... NEVER use Bal's Aura. ALWAYS put Zealot's fire up and cast Blessed Signet before going in. Until they're dead, keep spamming that divine boon. With their energy drain, you'll lose energy anyways. Might as well go towards hurting them. Even when energy is at 1-4, spam DB. Countless times I've been at 20 health and managed to squeak a DB through at the last second. Use bonetti's as often as possible. I've been testing and Shield can still work with Bonettis. Since Divine Boon is really only 1 time per second you are looking at 40 dps instead of 160. Shield of Judgement has some things going for it:

1. Holy damage penetrates armor. Zealot's only does 1/3 damage on a highly armored character while Shield does full
2. Knockdown = window of opportunity. I don't know how many times my Balthazar's Aura has been interrupted against a mob of 6, and Shield of Judgement can give you the chance to cast 2 of them, which is 500 points of area damage plus the Shield itelf, which would be about 300-400 depending on how fast they attack.
3. Even with Shield on , Bonettis charges up to full bar just fine.
4. Ranged - Shield hurts those annoying ranged attackers just the same as melee, and knocks them down as well.

Some things Divine Boon has going for it:

1. Don't need to spend anything on healing, put it all in Divine Favor
2. 1/4 second cast means I can heal inside a malestrom
3. Once it's in effect, ANYTHING I cast also fully heals me from an almost empty bar. This means shield/Balthazar's/Zealots will all do a full heal when I cast them

I have to say after switching to Bonettis I never have any energy problems. I hadn't considered it for my testing because I didn't have the W secondary, but it only took a few minutes to get switched over.

For pure killing speed, however, I still prefer the 2-man team. Although I can run in front now, freeing up my nuker to cast anything he wants without fear of interruption. All I can say is Spiteful Spirit owns underworld like no other.