Lack of Monks in Ascension Missions

HI all,

I'm noticign a distinct lack of healing monks in the ascension missions. It takes forever to find a group tha tcan keep itself alive.

Just an observation.

Thatsall.

after all the abuse the monks get after doing 10? missions, they tend to quit or get themselves rushed to Droknar's and level to 20 to get their skills and elites and be done with the monk proffession forever

The ascension missions (most others too) are fairly easy to do with henchmen as a monk player. I'm sure a lot of them are going this route.

It's 'cause monks get groups faster, which means they beat the game faster, which means there are less of them out there, and the supply of monks coming in is too low to compete with how fast they can finish the game.

Wait until later missions, monks gets even more scarce. And some of them even charge for their "services"...

My first char was el/nec, then i played war/el, when i started my mo/mes i finnished the game with that char before i complete it with the others that were at the last fire island. Took me about 3 days to finnish it with my monk. As soon as i logged in i would have 2-3 invites. Why dont you try starting a monk if you havent already.

take the henchies they are better than 90% of the "healing monks" you will find anyway

Each henchmen only weilds 5 skills, 1 of which is a rez.

Heal Other (Becomes Word of Healing later), Healing Breeze, Orison of Healing, Healing Touch, and Restore Life are all Alesia/Mhenlo have

Reversal of Fortune, Sheild of Regeneration, Protective Spirit, Aegis, and Restore Life are all Lina has.

There's a distinct lack of Condition and Hex removal that can hurt your group quite a bit at times. (Poison, for example, is not usually a major problem. When your entire group suffers from poison, the damage is a bit fast, and a bit too spread out for the hench to always handle. 8 damage per second on 6 people = 48 damage per second, in addition to all of the other hits your party is taking.)

This is the reason why some of us players will NOT try a healing Monk........"we are out before we even get up to bat" so to speak.

Another reason some people won't try a healer is LAG, some people have it worse than others. If your lagging, you can't be a good healer, no matter how hard you try. Contrary to the urban myths about internet access, many parts of north America still have nothing better than dailup internet access.

Yes, try Thirsty River with henchies if you're not a monk, and behold. Or maybe Thunderhead Keep. Alesia rushes in and usually gets killed first, so no, they're not better than 90% healing monks, they just don't quit the game (mainly because they can't-if henchies had a soul they'd probably be "afk, phone" most of the time).

The fact that the Elite of GW morons seems to choose the monk profession is not a reason to bash on the class. I've seen very few warriors who know which skills to choose. Most of them are confident in their armor and are convinced they can tank, but they couldn't tank a 4 yrs old child.

My biggest problem with the later missions is how easy they are right up until after ascenssion. Then you need teamwork, and some skill... maybe clear leadership, who knows... Because most people could coast through a bunch of these missions by tanking, and spanking you get a bunch of guys who have not been challenged to their full extent. So they have no "A" game to bring. Some get deffensive, others like to take it out on the healer, and others get frustrated and quit.

There's no need.

Give us the challenge. The first time I did Althea's ashes, it took 2 hours, and 4 party wipes to get things done with a group of people in the same room in close cooperation. The second time? We paused before the alter to pull a couple of mobs, but before that it was more like a group of level 10s steamrolling charr.

By the time I'm doing Thunderhead Keep, I should not be worried that the Mesmer is going to try to tank, or that there are 2 front-line target callers, nor people fighting over corpse use. This shtuff should be basic by now. I should be figuring how to best defend the midget king of suicidal tendancies, and who's got catapult duty.

as a matter of fact i have done thirsty and thunderhead with all henchies. thats right just me and henchies.

try it sometime, it takes skill.

I tried doing Thirsty River with henchman once, worked very well until to the end (the monk boss). Apparently, Henchies are unable to focus fire on the priest, when I am Targeting it (call target).

Fortunately though, the group after that one was succesful in winning.

For Dunes, you don't even need a healer, just get alesia and your set. (on a side note, did you know that the siege wurm's attack is reduced by Ward of Elements?)

Yes, the abuse that monks get is a big reason for the lack of them in the later missions. Some bad monks have gone (aswell as the good ones who got abused) , but the other bad player classes still remain, mainly because noone bashes them. It leaves a big imbalance.

Monk shortage + strategic missions + surplus of N/W tanks = catastrophe.

I made a monk to help out and for a whole week all i did was help people in elona and dunes. I have since retired to the life of a smiter.

Good luck!

[Not to bash the N/W class...just the ones who tank 3 enchanted sword and expect to win. ]

not even a warrior can tank 3 enchanted wrods and win so i do not see how a N/W can do it

Impossible to do Thunderhead keep only with henchies, if you're not a Mo/X or a secondary Mo. Don't lie or your nose will become longer.

Thirsty is very difficult only with henchies, but possible. It'll take you twice the time probably.

And "try it sometime, it takes skill" is the kind of tough talking I'd deem appropriate on the mouth of Chuck Norris, AKA Walker Texas Ranger. Please don't be ridiculous.

My monk can tank them with no problem whatsoever...and kill them all. Just their nasty mesmer buddies that i can't tackle.

If there is one thing i hate it is being called a liar. it is not impossible to do thunderhead keep with henchies. no mission is impossible with all henchies.

I am sorry if you cannot do it (practice up a bit maybey ou will be able to) i did it with all henchies on my R/W character if you do not believe me that is your own problem but i am going to ask you to refrain from calling someone a liar, (especially when you have no proof they are lying). sorry if i hurt your ego, but just because you cannot do it does not mean it cannot be done.

have a nice day

I have no doubt a smiting monk can do it no doubt at all.

Stop spreading misinformation, and stop telling people to practice up. You don't even know if I'm skilled or not and assuming I'm not is childish and arrogant.

I'm sorry, you're wrong here. Thunderhead Keep is impossible only with henchies with a non-healer char. It's not about skill: the King has suicidal tendencies all the time, Alesia is probably the better rusher in the whole game and usually gets killed first. You won't keep the King alive, even though you have Uber tactics and such.

Or maybe you're a prodigy and can PM me how you managed to do it (yes, this is an occasion to admit you're simply bragging and lying).