Illusionary Weaponry Assassin idea

please go easy... this is the first build I ever come up with which I think its new since i haven't seen anyone using it.
The idea is to try something besides dagger for Assassin and try to make some use of the deadly arts line. I choose to base the whole build on Illusionary Weaponry as the name suggest.

Stats:
Illusion: 11
Deady arts: 10
Shadow arts: 12 (with superior)

Dancing Dagger
Entangling Asp
epidemic
conjure phantasm
shadow refuge
illlusionary weaponry
Dark Escape
Rez or anything


-Illusionary Weaponary gives me constant damage regardless of any attack impairments such as blindness, evasion, blocking, or misses.
- I have more armor as a Assassin primary than mesmer so i should be able to last longer.
- With Dark escape, since i am not "successfully making any attacks", It wouldn't end prematurely and i will have the benefit of moving 25% faster and taking only half damage.
- use Dancing dagger as a lead to start off some damage, follow by Entangling Asp for poision, then epidemic to spread the condition. and finally conjure phantasm for extra degen. if that doesn't finish things off (which most likely wouldn't, but your target should have quite a bit of degen already), your 34 constant damage should be enough to finish him off.
- of course if things go bad there is always shadow refuge to pump up your health.
- since you aren't using dagger, u can use a sword or axe (same weapon speed i was told) and damage wouldn't matter. enchantment last longer mod would be best. AND you can hold a shield for extra armor.


I am just using the skills that i can buy right now to make this build (since i am poor), i am sure if this build works at all there is probably much better sub for the skills i listed.
Please feel free to commet.

The good thing about IW on an assassin is that they have the fastest 'natural' attack rate. But with your skills, you don't have enough energy to support yourself to use these skills...

Yea, invest in Critical strikes, thatll solve most energy problems at least for pvp. Maybe if that doesn't work get some shrouded armor and zeaoulous daggers. Good luck.

Quote: Originally Posted by Trixz

Scroll down and check the notes section. It will yield all the info you need on IW.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Illusionary_Weaponry

Quote: Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter

also IW slashers can use flurry to help out the aspd thing.

and IW slasher can use daggers and flurry for even more >.< aspd

also IW slashers do more damage than you by about 10 per hit.

Quote: Originally Posted by Terra Xin

u may as well use the normal iIllusionary Weaponry mesmeer build...

Quote: Originally Posted by fallot Not without Dagger Mastery they don't. Without double strikes, Daggers have the same attack speed as Swords and Axes, so scratch that benefit. Quote: Originally Posted by http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dagger Daggers hit in combat every 1.25 seconds. Dagger Mastery of 16 increases the "average attack speed" to 0.95 seconds due to the double strikes that trigger at higher probablity. Quote: Originally Posted by http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Axe

Is it possible to double strike with IW?

i think it is, since you double strike while blinded.. even though both miss

Quote: Originally Posted by Kaguya

Looks like th the difference between attacking and hitting needs to be defined, and the description for IW needs to be verified based on that clarification.

easily solved: Me/A...but of course you are more of a priority then

Death Blossum + IW seems like it would be pretty effective in PvE

errr the 1.25 attack speed for daggers w/o double strike is based on a guess and not fact http://www.gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Attack_Speed
Note the asterisk. Personally i would put the dagger speed at the same as swords and axes.

I like the build, unfortuantely i would prefer daggers for this, as they attack fastest with double strikes. I say screw deadly arts and give those points (and the sup) to dagger mastery.

Illusion 12
Dagger 12 (rune)(mask)
Shadow 10

5 points left over.

thx for all the input guys.
i tested this with some guildmate and ya i just can't get all the energy to pull the whole combo smoothly even with + energy on hit weapon. and once IW's duration is over i have interval that i can't attack at all.
maybe i'll try to modify it abit and use dagger instead for the double strike.

Quote: Originally Posted by Maellus

Daggers have exactly the same attack speed as axes and swords. They have an inherent 2% chance to double strike (regardless of DM), which brings their average attack rate down to 1.315, and an even 1 second at 16dm.

You're giving up a huge amount of damage here for relatively little return.