Urgoz Warren V The Deep

I have always been wonder, which is harder of the two elite missions? I have done Urgoz and let me tell you I can't see you getting much harder then that. Uggs, however, the whole domain things and oni mobs out the deep make it seem hard, but what do you guys think?

Kurzick, harder and longer.

Kurzick isn't harder and longer, it's just that less people are playing it. There's more people in The Deep, so even if you play in random groups , most of the players know what to do.

urgoz is way harder.....and takes longer.

I think that Urgoz is much harder right now. I've played the deep and didn't have any trouble beating it. But on urgoz, that is another story (My first time trying to navigate through that damn maze was a pain in the ass).

The situation may change relatively soon. The Deep has been played more often and there is more or less a set build for it. Urgoz on the other hand doesn't have many people playing it, and so people still experimenting on the most efficient way at beating it.

i disagree, i think that urgoz is longer, but if you are in a trapping team its easy

go barrage/pet! faster! someone once told me that trapping groups are for neurotics... =P
but imo, i've done it trapping and b/p, and b/p is faster.

b/p is faster, but it's not as foolproof as trapper group, and to be honest, kanaxai is easy compared to Urgoz, atleast with the group i always gets :P they do like 8 runs a day and always have one hosted available for me, lol

it depends urgoz and deep r about the same
deep 1st 1/2 =easy
urgoz 1st 1/2 =easy
but both 2nd half of the missions begin to get hard, maby just because of the death penalty.

The warren is defenatly longer than the deep. Harder too.

barrage/pet is a terrible plan, 4 deaths on your pet and you can't rez them, youd get nowhere with it.

As for difficulty, i'd say Urgoz is harder, first of all because to someone new in there the room where the doors slam behind you and there are pop ups would ruin you. The Deep generally seems a lot more manageable, the end room is -10 degen, but theres a room in Urgoz with -15 degen and its not even at the end. If you know how to cope with the different Aspects in The Deep it's much simpler.

Urgoz is definately longer and i think harder too, those Assassin pop up things are stupidly powerful and when they take a bit of damage and do desperate strike it does HUGE damage, very painful if you get ambushed.

It all depends on your groupd and your groups build, each elite has their hard and easy spots. I myself, well I think the end is harder on the deep. I just went through urgoz today with a B/P group, and didnt have much trouble at all. The easiest part of the mission, was actually killing urgoz. Thats entirely different from Kanaxi.

But the Urgoz is by far, not longer then the deep. I just completed urgoz in 2 1/2 hours. The fasted I have beaten The Deep is within 3 1/2 hours.