Yes, I am ******* Complaining

I have been at this "Unwaking Waters" mission for too long now, Im on the luxon side, and when ever I try the mission, theres a few scenarios..

1) I get in a team, theyer all noobs, run off, take 4 w/mo's (and wont listen when I tell them they need ranged attacks), then kick me saying IM the noob.
2) I end up taking henchies, I get a henchie team join me from Kurzicks, = me and 15 henchies
3) I end up taking henchies, get a HUMAN team joining me from kurzicks

when I have taken henchies, and its been ONLY me, and henchies, I have been further through the mission, than if im in a human party, or with henchies and a human Kurzick team -- the Last run I did (right before I posted this) It was me, 7 henchies, and a full team of 8 kurzicks, they all died, I think I lost 3 henchies at one point, but quickly res'd them.. -- the other team also used the Resurrection Orb, (when there was only 1 dead)

I have seen this sort of things way too many times, and not just in this mission either.

henchies, arent quite smart enough to beable to finish the mission on your own, with 2 henchie teams (since you cant res the second team, and they dont follow YOUR targets)

people are too dumb (majority of.. that is) to do the mission, and wont listen when someone tries to offer them advice...

WILL I EVER GET THIS F****** MISSION DONE!!!

I said to myself, im never going to go Heros Ascent again, till I complete Factions (this was on day of release) -- and I have stuck to that, but my friends are all catching me up in rank (all of which gave up on factions ages ago)

You're in a guild.. get them to help.

It's a pretty easy mission, actually.. have your team bring Mantra of Lightning.

why move?? this belongs in General, Its not sharing any knowledge (tips/tricks) -- Its not asking for help, Its not asking Questions, its simply complaining at the ammount of noobs who cant do a mission..


and yes, im in a guild, who most (as I said) gave up on factions, and some arent even this far yet... Others refuse to play factions cause they wanna HoH etc...

All I have to say, is that I'm an assassin. A little dweeb that every monk picks on. I took henchies, ended up with Kurzick henchies. Attempted mission twice and beat it. Suck it up, equipt yourselve nicely and get it done. An by the way I did it with half my skill bar being close range skills.

Did I mention I was an Assassin?

im an Assassin too!

the point im making is that people cant get as far in the mission as henchies can... theres gotta be something wrong there... when I get a human team, and im with henchies, as I said above, I end up still alive when all them are dead.. the ONLY reason I havent been able to complete it with only henchies is cause the other henchie team doesnt follow me good enough, so they end up dieing, and I cant res the other team..

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Yeah, You really need guild help on this one. From what you have said about your guild they dont seem to be big into pve to begin with.

I feel your pain about the hench situation also. It seems pretty vacant in the last few mission towns, let alone getting a group that have a clue. All the officers in our guild have beat the game, but the majority of memebers haven't gotten much farther then zos shivros or further back<shrugg>

Did it first time with henchies, wasnt hard, no PvE missions are, got a nice gold staff on the way

Take the Domination and Interrupt henchmen. Honestly, if you can interrupt that blasted dragon's lightning and breath/scales skills you're half way to beating the mission.

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On one of my initial attempts at this particular mission, I hooked up with koneko, each of us on different sides, each of us taking 7 henchmen, and we synced our entrance. On our first try that way, we did quite well, but due to poor pulling and calling, mostly on my part, we did end up failing. But, that alone gave me the knowladge I needed to later complete the mission. I then knew what worked and what didn't, which made me stronger in the long run.

Oh, and I did this with my sword Ranger build. I'm CERTAIN that I would have been able to beat it with better pulling, and 14 henchies.

And, you're in a Guild, where I ended up just henching it. Either the times you're trying it are poor, or your guild stinks.

whisper me ingame when you try it the next time - i will do my best to gather some patient adventurers (tm) on the kurzick side for a sync-entry! o_O
i haven't gotten around to build up 10k luxon fp - so that is the only thing i can offer. x_X

as for ressing: whenever i am in there i end up dropping the res-orb on the luxon team that got wiped (true)

The mission can definately be done with 15 hench. The rez orbs do rez hench from the other side.

ok, my guild are a PvP guild, And its MY guild, so I cant simply "move on"

I have now done the mission, With henchies (eventually) -- yes, I knew the res orbs would res the other team, but what when that/they are used?

i dont mind now as I have done it, lets hope this next one isnt as bad

tbh, I was a little mad because of the ppl I got with not having a clue, and most of the time you cant even find a group....

Dunno why you felt the need to make a thread that basically says "I can't do this mission because people are noobs and I dunno how to control henches." Anyway, there's some good info on this mission to be found here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3025099

One thing i found with this mission was to go International, generally the people ive teamed up with there have been (usually) better players despite teh language barrier.

Tried that mission 5 times with the Sin in Home, 1st time in Int got two teams of 8 and walked it

If your the guild leader.. shouldn't it be easier to get them to help you..

You're an Assassin! That alone can be the reason why people are calling you n00bs! Hey, you know how much people in this world judge a book by its cover. Don't feel too bad about it.

But I have too say this one time...

I was the party leader as a SS necro. The mission started...the whole team just walked out of the gate. This Assassin...(who I invited to team because I played an Assassin before and know how hard it is to find a team as an Assassin)...Death charge into the enemy group and got killed...after that losing attempt, booting that Asn out of the party was the first thing I did.

really? I did this mission first try. Afterwards, i helped my friend, and we did it with 4 humans total from both sides.

But raisu palace, now that seems hard. Tried it once, seems like the hardest mission in the game.