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WOW fan...Buy faction or the first guild wars?
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Originally Posted by Shika Xblade
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great level progression very immersive very open-ended not that great pvp GW:: not very immersive very linear amazing pvp games and arenas not very character oriented In all reality, if you want PvE, stay with WoW. If you want to go more PvP, play GW. End of story. |
I played WOW, then GW when it came out found out I did not like post searing ascalon. Had a friend drag me through ascalon (after a few months of playing wow) Once I got past ascalon, I really enjoyed the PVE, a good story line and I finally understood why the 8 spell/skill slots, it creates different builds. I was used to WOW with the telos mods and such wanting to spam my spells. Here it is build oriented and you can change your build. I carry various armors for various builds. I carry major curses if i want to SS, Major blood to be a orders necro, and Major Death to MM. Thats 3 different builds using the same character. i just adjust my attribute points and armor and a different type of necro. i am not locked to a certain build with penalty like i was in WOW. In wow I played 2 different druids so i would not have to pay to re adjust my stats or skill selections (thats killer amount of time too) I love GW, and I loved WOW, I just play GW over WOW.
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Originally Posted by kakashi84
hi guys,im considering crossing over to guild wars..but im pondering which guild wars version i should buy..the latest expansion or the first guild wars..i cant made up my mind because i've heard lots of negative comments about factions.. but is there still alot of people playing the original guild wars? how is the gameplya as compared to WoW?
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Well first of all, wait a few months, then look for deals offering both games Prophecies and Factions for the same price Factions is now. It wont be long, and it will happen.
Second of all, WoW is a powerfully marketed fantasy world that anyone with a computer knows they can escape to. Compared to what I would call 'good' PC Games of ANY genre, the gameplay and depth within WoW is appalling. I played it for perhaps 4-6 months.
They are wholly different games, GW and WoW, although GW was developed by a team who left WoW development team, I think, after the game took a certain 'direction'.
To clarify. The gameplay in GW is almost purely combat, a rich, tactical, balanced, and thought provoking combat experiance. Although in my experiance GW is the better GAME, anyone looking to come to GW and while away the hours after the kids have gone to bed pretending to be an Elf Druid and speaking Elvish is going to be sorely dissapointed, because the community in GW is sadly over run by the early to mid teens online combat enthuisiasts. In other words the really poor players who can neither spell nor show respect to anyone regardless of what they do where they are or what anyone asks them.
Hopefully A.net will be able to address this final point, but if you are looking for an online game where you and some close friends can use your imagination to role play, WoW currently is far more condusive to that role.
If you want a good game, GW 'owns' WoW, and there is no comparison.
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Try 10 hours for the original Guild Wars for free. I don't know where the thread is because search is disabled, but people who preordered Guild Wars Factions got a key to give a friend a key to play the original Guild Wars for 10 hours. In this forum, people were giving away keys to people that wanted to try the game. Then, if you still like it, buy the game and add a real key to continue playing those characters (or start a new account).
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Originally Posted by kakashi84
hi guys,im considering crossing over to guild wars..but im pondering which guild wars version i should buy..the latest expansion or the first guild wars..i cant made up my mind because i've heard lots of negative comments about factions.. but is there still alot of people playing the original guild wars? how is the gameplya as compared to WoW?
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If you like tons of plot-twists: Prophecies
If you like a linear chase after a single bad guy plot: Factions
If you want your character to be level 20 sooner: Factions
If you want more development time before you reach level 20: Prophecies
If you want more land mass to explore: Prophecies
If you want more content per square inch: Factions
If you like a linear chase after a single bad guy plot: Factions
If you want your character to be level 20 sooner: Factions
If you want more development time before you reach level 20: Prophecies
If you want more land mass to explore: Prophecies
If you want more content per square inch: Factions
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Originally Posted by kakashi84
is there a ranking system in guild wars? my rank in WOW is sergeant major..im sure Wow players understand what im talking about..
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Originally Posted by Selus of Amoe
There is, indeed, a ranking system in Guild Wars.
In PvP, there is a special place called the Hall of Heroes, found by going through battles in Heroe's Ascent. By winning battles you collect fame, which increases as you win consecutive fights. As soon as you hit rank 3 in fame (which is 180 fame) you get a title as well as a /emote which shows off that title via an animal (deer for rank 3) This rank can't go up or down unlike WoW and you will keep it on all characters. |
Unlike WoW ranks, the guild ladder rating does not decay over time (although it does reset at the end of every season), but instead it moves up and down as you win and lose battles.
All guilds start with a guild rating of 1000. The matchmaker tries to match you against other guilds with a similar rating to your own. Your rating goes up if you win, and down if you lose. The amount that it goes up or down depends on how high the other guild's rating is compared to your guild's rating.
If you have a 1000 rated guild vs a 1000 rated guild, the winner gains +15 and the loser -15 rating.
But if the match is very lopsided (eg., 1600 rating vs 800 rating), then the rating changes are more dramatic. A very low rated guild would gain +29 for beating a very high rated guild and lose only -1 for losing. On the other hand, a very high rated guild would gain only +1 for beating a very low rated guild and would lose a huge -29 for losing.
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As far as Prophecies vs Factions, the starter quests in Factions do a much better job of explaining gameplay mechanics than the starter area of Prophecies. If you do start with Prophecies however, the first thing you should do is make a PvP-only character. This will take you into a PvP tutorial area that also does a much better job of introducing gameplay mechanics than the Prophecies PvE starter area. Finish the PvP tutorial, delete the PvP character, then make a new RP character as normal.
JUST GETTHE ORIGINAL!!! I started the thread "Is Factions worth it?" After reading all that people think about the two games, the original (Prophecies) is just better. I only have the original, and I am very satisfied with it. I have only beat it once, but it has so mich to do. There are so many quests to do. Finding items and earning gold is just so much fun. Unlike other games, you have to be patient while trying to sell an item in the game. Just spam what you are trying to sell and you will find someone soon enough. Joining a guild I think is better than starting your own. That is just me. I am not very good at starting my own. I tried and I bought a guild hall and cape, but didn't have a lot of time to work on getting more members and GvG. This is because my parents are divorced and I can only play Guild Wars every Wednesday and every other weekend. If you get Guild Wars, you should be commited to it (don't let it control your life though). It can drop your grades if you are a student.
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Originally Posted by kakashi84
Hmmm..may i ask if PvP is still active in Prophecies?And do players go on Raids like in WoW?
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Guild Wars is more about providing the player with a tactical, team based, fanstasy combat game. Rather than say a mass communal fantasy based playground.
While you could say WoW is about pretending to be an Elf and going hunting some Orcs, after you have crafted some supplies and learned some new skills, Guild Wars is about getting your mesmer to shut down an enemy elementalists Area of Effect spells, while your necromancer and warrior crush the enemy monk.
Whether you prefer PvE or PvP, Guild Wars is about timing, anticipation, reactions, and 'character development' called 'builds' in Guild Wars.
Raids dont happen per se, but there are a large number of PvP options, ranging from possible 1v1's, all the way up to 12 v 12, or 8v8v8v8v8v8.
Its hard to compare the two, because ultimatly to the dedicated/regular/enthuisiastic player, they offer distinctly different gaming styles.
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All PvP in GuildWars is done in arenas or competitive missions. There is no world PvP like there is in WoW (at least until the DK system killed world PvP in WoW). In Prophecies you'll get access to 4 vs. 4 and 8 vs. 8 arenas only. In Factions you'll get 12 vs. 12 and competitive missions, along with the 4 vs. 4 and 8 vs. 8 arenas that you'd get if you bought the original (I think). I prefer the PvP gameplay types in Factions over Prophecies as they are much more tactical. Imagine Arathi Basin that actually has lasting appeal cause their are lots of possibilities, and that's what Factions 12 vs. 12 is like.
Also, I'm a GuildWars veteran and I prefer the PvE and story of Factions over the original. You get to level 20 faster, which is where the game really begins, and the flow of the story and writting for quests is superb. In Prophecies towns and missions you'll just find a bunch of boneheads offering to run your through the game for your gold. That to me is the downfall of Prophecies. I tell all my friends to buy Factions first and get the original afterwards.
Also, I'm a GuildWars veteran and I prefer the PvE and story of Factions over the original. You get to level 20 faster, which is where the game really begins, and the flow of the story and writting for quests is superb. In Prophecies towns and missions you'll just find a bunch of boneheads offering to run your through the game for your gold. That to me is the downfall of Prophecies. I tell all my friends to buy Factions first and get the original afterwards.
