April 15 Skill Balance: SOUL REAPING and spirits

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shezbian
Academy Page
#1
I Think Soul Reaping Should Not Trigger On Spirits.
First. It Is Anti Iway!
Second. It Is Unfair!!
A Ranger Throwing Up Spirits Left And Right And Oathshotting Them For Unlimited Energy = Unfair!
A Good Oath Shotter Who Can Kite Properly Can Give Over 1000 Energy In A Full 10 Minutte Battle!
I See So Many Teams Like Zaished Running The Bs Over And Over In Halls Just Running Around With Thier Healing Hands Shield Of Deflection Martyr And Spiking One Or So Targets And Holding Halls For 3 Hours. Do Spirits Move? No
Soul Reaping: For Every Creature... Honestly How Can A Spirit Be Considered A Creature Does It Do Damage Lol.
Now, Lets Nerf This Flavor Of The Month And Be Done With It Anet!
All Hail April 15 Skill Balance The Blood Spike Exile!
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#2
Doesnt your finger hurt after pressing shift every word?
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shezbian
Academy Page
#3
I make a point with it : )
Hella Good
Hella Good
Desert Nomad
#4
I think you need a chill pill. There is nothing wrong with Soul Reaping being triggered on spirits... 0. If they going to nerf Soul Reaping they might as well get rid of IWAY getting triggered on pets and Ranger Expertise stop working on non-Ranger skills. I mean, come on... There is a fine line between serious balance issues and "I want it that way, so nerf it, Anet!"
mint
mint
Krytan Explorer
#5
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Originally Posted by Bloody Death
Doesnt your finger hurt after pressing shift every word?
that's how the forum reformatts the post if it is written in all-caps.

I think its funny that he's complaining about blood spike "bs" when he's an iway-er.
Rayne Nightfyre
Rayne Nightfyre
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
Didn't you post something else before, from the biased standpoint of pro-Iway? I recognized your signature style of shifting every word... (only difference is that I could read this one )

But seriously, I honestly don't know what to say about your topic. :/
Murder In China
Murder In China
Banned
#7
And people said Soul Reaping was useless in PvP...
Lady Lozza
Lady Lozza
Forge Runner
#8
*blinks* that was something of an eye-sore.
Personally I don't see why it is unfair that soul-reaping triggers on spirits, iway still triggers pets. I don't think that oathshot it unfair either.
HA is about tactics and a little common sense. Blood spike is a good team build, as is ranger spike. Iway is a good PUG build, but you can't expect to win and hold halls with a pug, it simply isn't a common occurance.
Alice has been known to hold halls for 6+ hours, what do you suggest we do with that? Outlaw rainbow spikes?
Simply because someone has a good idea for a team build, and it beats your team constantly, does not make it unfair. I said the same thing of Iway when many people were up in arms against it, and I say the same thing about e-bombs. There is nothing wrong with these builds. If Anet determines there is a skill that is not functioning as intended and threatening the balance of the game they will do something about it, and people will find new ways of doing things. However simply because you THINK you are UBER and you THINK you should be OWNING when you are not does NOT make the skills being used against you UNFAIR. Balanced means for every action there is an equal and opposite counter-action. If they are better at countering and out-manouevring you, they will win.
Ephemeral Dreamer
Ephemeral Dreamer
Ascalonian Squire
#9
Almost any mes can stop the spirit spammer from dropping spirts if they just zapp the spirit spammer energy (had this happen to me by a mes with the name almost like the OP), long story short, the match took 20 min beore 1 side finally won (this was on the burial map, 1st map i believe)
konohamaru heaven
konohamaru heaven
Lion's Arch Merchant
#10
Ok children dont make me turn this car around I mean it this time.

On a more serious note I personally think soul reaping is fine as it is with spirits. Anyways how often do you really see a crap load of spirits in the current metagame that revolve around abusing Soul Reaping.
Lady Lozza
Lady Lozza
Forge Runner
#11
Agreed, blood spike, ranger spike, etc does not spam spirits for energy for their necros. Spirits like fertile and symbiosis exist in these builds to keep the team alive. Muddy terrain to prevent/slow melee attacks and frozen to stop res. There are twice as many opposition to kill and the opposition go down much more quickly than the spirits, therefore it is safe to say that the majority of their energy is gained from killing the enemy than from spirits (nearby) dying.
d4nowar
d4nowar
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
Have the two posts above mine ever even played a decent blood spike?

Overlapping spirits = one is dead. That gives you your energy to keep up your spikes.
Lady Lozza
Lady Lozza
Forge Runner
#13
d4nowar, I am well aware of the situation as I have played in a decent blood spike before. I've also played against blood spikes both on the winning and loosing side. A spirit spammer does not spam spirits indefinately, or perhaps rather shouldn't have to, and furthermore certainly can't keep up the casting in such a way as the original poster suggested. A ranger - even in druids - only has so much energy.
It is my personal experience that I gain more energy from killing the opposition than from the spirit spammer spamming fertile and symbiosis. This is of course not including the times spent facing iway and being able to gain energy from THEIR spirits as well.
Certainly against a very good set of monks the spirit spammer working over time might make all the difference, however in my general exeperience a blood spike either works or does not work well against a certain team and - by the time all the necros are so low on energy they cannot spike successfully - the game is either won or lost.
Of course in a spike team that is NOT very good, where the spikes never come off properly and they aren't killing the opposition as quickly as most decent blood spikes do, a spirit spammer might make a huge difference to the energy pool of the necros.
unienaule
unienaule
I dunt even get "Retired"
#14
Pointing out how someone is wrong = good.

Flames like "you suck die plz k thx" = bad.
Cacheelma
Cacheelma
Desert Nomad
#15
ummm...and why did the OP have to post the exact thread (with exact message) on two different boards?!?

Go over to GWO to see what I'm talking about and oh, FYI: Most of his threads at GWO's board got closed.
TheMosesPHD
TheMosesPHD
Jungle Guide
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by unienaule
Pointing out how someone is wrong = good.

Flames like "you suck die plz k thx" = bad.
sry
Weezer_Blue
Weezer_Blue
Elite Guru
#17
Yeah! We shouldn't need counters! A.Net, Nerf Every Build But The One I Am Using This Instant Kay Thankz Bye
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dansamy
Chasing Dragons
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by unienaule
Pointing out how someone is wrong = good.

Flames like "you suck die plz k thx" = bad.
My incredible disappearing post was a lesson in proper English sentence structure. However, it's disappeared even though it was neither a personal attack nor a flame.
studentochaos
studentochaos
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
When I saw this thread title I knew I was going to laugh. Thank you all for the giggles.
Mister Muhkuh
Mister Muhkuh
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
OH NOOO it is Anti Iway
aahhh
heeelp meee neeerf iiit
/sarcasm

dont play iway if u cant manage to get other teams down with it...