ArenaNet Changes - Not a fan

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BE|Dac
Banned
#1
yeah, anet being so responsive is the biggest load of crock I have ever heard.

1. To please PvE players they add in ale, lol, thats nothing at all. That is pure fluff.

2. The entire advertisement of the game was completely false in every way.

From Dynamic Terrain, to Skill, to no mindless repition, to fun pve.

3. Don't wait for them to fix grind because it will never be gone, they will not eliminate it. Fact. PvP quest rewards will take years and years alone to get all the skills.

4. the game is unbalanced, designed that way (PvE rewards your PVP skill)

5. The PVP maps offer no replayability just repitition, They have added nothing in the way of PVP offerings since 2 years ago in E34E, besides GVG.

6. The PvE is not replayable unless you have really low standards for games.

7. The huge ammount of customers they could have had where lost, the ones they have now will not be buying the expansion. Anet's reputation for actually delivering products that follow advertisement and box info is completely sullied in most eyes, and the HARDCORE gamers create word of mouth.
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Shin Lail
Ascalonian Squire
#2
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Originally Posted by BE|Dac
7. The huge ammount of customers they could have had where lost, the ones they have now will not be buying the expansion. Anet's reputation for actually delivering products that follow advertisement and box info is completely sullied in most eyes, and the HARDCORE gamers create word of mouth.
You can not speak for everyone so do not try.
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BE|Dac
Banned
#3
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Originally Posted by Shin Lail
You can not speak for everyone so do not try.
ya ya ya but basically Arena.net got a huge fan following a lot of them hardcore then completely ****ed them over with a huge pain in the ass grind. I mean we did know there was grind, and we expected it, but the massive ammount of time required is just ridiculous to MOST players.

AKA where if they didnt do this 5x-10x more people would be playing PVP on a regular basis, aka making it a lot better.

Basically the PVP in the game before release, was quick, easy, and pretty fun with even just UAS. The hype pre-release was pretty big everywhere, Casual game for casual gamers, anyone can play etc. Was all bullshit and the game was retarded, I mean honestly you would spend a month getting a build ready to be ran, then have to sit people because they didnt have grind done, then they would just slowly disappear because it was retarded.

Honestly the PvP is just stupid atm. I mean a little competition would be nice. Instead we have this abomination of good gameplay and design.

Yeah im harsh, but plainly spoken I have high standards in games, and Anet obviously doesn't.
stumpy
stumpy
Jungle Guide
#4
ale is fluff ... but I believe it was only added as another out source for people to waste there money on. no real content developments have occurred and unfortunately none seem to really be on the horizon except for the freebie ones coming this august which will give pve players about 1 week of fun. I'm gathering it will be about 2 weeks for me ... but I'm not as hardcore as some of the gamers. Anet could nerf me and the 2 areas could be larger than the shiverpeaks which makes my assumption wrong. Please nerf me, please ...

anyways, read the recent interview ... it addresses a couple of your 'people are stupid' in black and white ... i believe it says word for word 'guildwars is not really a mmo'

and goes on stating how they intend to develop more pvp aspects and have plans of bumping there first world class tourney ahead of schedule (pvp again) ... and once again pve gets the royal boot in the testicle. Guess U/W and fissure runs are all thats left.... still trying to solo that but heaven forbid I make a farming video of doing that ... impossible ... we will see

EDIT --- they dont make money from pve players because pve players have little to play for right now. Even less than pvp gamers.
Itbegins
Itbegins
Frost Gate Guardian
#5
yah i agree with Bedac 95% im sticking with it for at least the next expansion if im not impressed im done with this game and i dont speak for everyone but i speak for about 100+ people in game who agree 100%........ how freaking retarded is it with each charector you make to unlock skills you have to do the same missions over and over and over again.
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BE|Dac
Banned
#6
Basically, if I was asking for mounts, magical effects, a whole new magic system with etc.

Im not asking for months of coding work, months of etc.

I think eveyrone is just asking for them to change some design ideas they have to suit the community, casual gamers and people interested in at least trying out PvP how it was balanced, meant, and supposed to be played. With access to 450 skills and dynamic matchups.

I don't see the problem, I never have, maybe they make more $$$ from PVE players this way but I really don't understand how.

I know GW has an awesome PVP system, I have played in it for a long time, I can feel the difference in every tombs channel, every forum, and every PvP players view on everything. I don't see the big roadblock in the way, to me its an open highway ANET has no reason not to ride down, infact they promised it.
Red Locust
Red Locust
Site Contributor
#7
Omg you're so right!!1! I also think Half Life 2 is a garbage game because the single player is linear and only playable once, and the multiplayer CS:S offers no replayability just repetition on the same maps killing the same people using the same guns, over and over again.

oh wait. CSS and Guild Wars are currently some of the most played online games right now, along with WoW and EQ2 which have even more grind. :|
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gosl
Lion's Arch Merchant
#8
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Originally Posted by BE|Dac
yeah, anet being so responsive is the biggest load of crock I have ever heard.

1. To please PvE players they add in ale, lol, thats nothing at all. That is pure fluff.
What's wrong with them adding ale? It doesn't hurt anyone at all. If anything, it gives some people an extra something to play with. I like those "fluffs" in games, especially RPG-ish ones. It's good distraction from the usual quest-quest-quest.

I won't comment about the other stuff because they're relative (IMO). Though I think Anet has been pretty responsive to gamers, compared to other game developers (with a somewhat fire-and-forget attitude).

Seems like someone needs to relax a bit and have some ale ...
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BE|Dac
Banned
#9
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Originally Posted by Red Locust
Omg you're so right!!1! I also think Half Life 2 is a garbage game because the single player is linear and only playable once, and the multiplayer CS:S offers no replayability just repetition on the same maps killing the same people using the same guns, over and over again.

oh wait. CSS and Guild Wars are currently some of the most played online games right now, along with WoW and EQ2 which have even more grind. :|
CS:S is fun and easy to access... Also you dont have to worry about stupid teammates because the maps are designed to funnel both teams, along with the ability to shine on your own and impress others.

same for HL2.

Guildwars can be fun, but the singleplayer gets boring pretty quickly for a mmorpg compared to WoW etc. Also WoW is like 10x better at PvE then GW.

.... I dont see much immersion in GW or roleplaying.. not to say WoW has much roleplaying but it at least is immersion in a new world.

And really 15$ a month isnt that expensive... even for a less then great WoW game.
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BE|Dac
Banned
#10
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Originally Posted by gosl
What's wrong with them adding ale? It doesn't hurt anyone at all. If anything, it gives some people an extra something to play with. I like those "fluffs" in games, especially RPG-ish ones. It's good distraction from the usual quest-quest-quest.

I won't comment about the other stuff because they're relative (IMO). Though I think Anet has been pretty responsive to gamers, compared to other game developers (with a somewhat fire-and-forget attitude).

Seems like someone needs to relax a bit and have some ale ...
Im not insanely angry, just my view on Guildwaaaaaaarz.

im actually at work which is why I pozt herez.
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nycxjk
Pre-Searing Cadet
#11
Another pointless topic.
PieXags
PieXags
Forge Runner
#12
I see...the PvP portion of GW is repetitive...but in CS: S that's entirely fine...sounds to me like you just overplayed the game too quickly. Need to know when to take a break man. ANY game will get boring if you play it too much, take a week off, play something else in the meantime.
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Vynn
Academy Page
#13
/yawn

Get on with your life then, BE|Dac.
Xoduz
Xoduz
Ascalonian Squire
#14
For you BE|Dace,

Enjoy
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Ian
Ascalonian Squire
#15
I am an individual so I suppose I'm not stupid.

On topic, one of ArenaNet's goal is to reduce grind, not eliminate it.

So far, they have been catering the PvE aspect of the game. This week's patch letter clarified that they will focus on improving the PvP aspect of the game.

BE|Dac, which advertisement of the game do you think is completely false?
dbgtboy
dbgtboy
Wilds Pathfinder
#16
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Originally Posted by Xoduz
For you BE|Dace,

Enjoy
rofl, that is hilarious, why doesn't anet just give us all skills, this unlocking junk is stupid and boring, i have to beat the game 3 different times to actually start pvping since you really cant join a decent guild unless u can play almost every profession.
Stigmata Arta
Stigmata Arta
Academy Page
#17
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Originally Posted by BE|Dac
CS:S is fun and easy to access... Also you dont have to worry about stupid teammates because the maps are designed to funnel both teams, along with the ability to shine on your own and impress others.

same for HL2.

Guildwars can be fun, but the singleplayer gets boring pretty quickly for a mmorpg compared to WoW etc. Also WoW is like 10x better at PvE then GW.

.... I dont see much immersion in GW or roleplaying.. not to say WoW has much roleplaying but it at least is immersion in a new world.

And really 15$ a month isnt that expensive... even for a less then great WoW game.
You dont have to worry about stupid team mates in CS: S.... Have you ever PLAYED the game? So your saying its absolutely fine if all your team mates run off and die straight away and you get left by yourself to take out the entire other team? No thats not fine and if they do that once there probably new to the game and are VERY likely to do it lots more.

As for the not buying the expansion Im buying the expansion and im sure that most people who play GW will probably buy it. Its probably the minority who will not get it.

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Originally Posted by dbgtboy
rofl, that is hilarious, why doesn't anet just give us all skills, this unlocking junk is stupid and boring, i have to beat the game 3 different times to actually start pvping since you really cant join a decent guild unless u can play almost every profession.
Was that a joke? You seriously think that they should just give us all the skills? What would be the point in playing the game?
Principa Discordia
Principa Discordia
Site Contributor
#18
I see that ranting-season is still in full swing.
Mavrik
Mavrik
Forge Runner
#19
If they release an expansion, I'm waiting in line for it. GW rules.

And if I'm stupid? well, takes one to know one.
Stigmata Arta
Stigmata Arta
Academy Page
#20
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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia
I see that ranting-season is still in full swing.
Hehe

Some people thinking that they know best just really annoy me and I needed to say something about this.


Oh yeah
GO MAVRIK!!!!