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Originally Posted by Ranger Robert
Farming distorts the entire game. This month's "Computer Gamer" describes Chinese farming sweatshops where they work 12 hours a day farming and then sell those things for cash. Do you want to reward such behavior ? To take out losers like that, you "normal" farmers are going to have to be taken out with them.
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| No person that plays role playing games is interested in having venders in the first town of the game sell everything in the game, it just not how RPG’s work. It’s not an argument guys it’s a blurry definition of the game. I bought it thinking it was an RPG. I find out that, though it had elements of an RPG, it was intended to be a fantasy based arena PvP game. I got what I wanted out of the RPG part of it, and I find myself lucky that I got to play though most of the story without the “buy everything you want” vender. |
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Originally Posted by BlaineTog
Farming is boring and repetetive.
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Originally Posted by toastgodsupreme
If you want to pvp though, well sit down, shut the hell up and bite the bullet like all the other pvp'ers and farm. It's not like you have been singled out.
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Originally Posted by Dyeeo
Some of you are probably going to say "god there are hundreds of these posts" but I am going to post this anyhow. I don’t mean to start a flame war and you may choose to just ignore me but if you are going to argue with me, at least try to see my side a bit?
A few facts first: I like "farming" I am a "normal" player I see no reason why the game devs are so against farming. Does farming contribute to the grind? A: I dont think so. First of all, many people farm for fun. Its like gambling. There is that slight chance for a slight reward that makes it so nice. Do people farm to get an advantage over other people therefore making the other people grind? No, if there is some nice weapon upgrade or such that a person wants, it will take the exact same amount of actual time to get it as someone who does quests normally. The monsters also drop the same exact amount of drops for everyone. Sure the time period over days might be different but the actual time spent to get the items would be around the same no? Normal players cant farm so therefore its unfair! A: This is untrue as well. I am a normal player and I farm maybe 30 mins a day jsut to get enough gold to get by to buy armor and dyes, materials etc. I find farming much more enjoyable than doing some crazy quest sometimes. It’s nice to get a break from doing an objective just to go and get some items and gold. Farming is harmful! A: I sometimes farm for items that I would otherwise have no way of affording. These items include the infamous dragon sword. Does it create an imbalance in the game when one finds it from farming? No, in fact it is worse than many other swords, it just looks better. So why is everyone against me farming for the tiny chance to get them? All I want is some nice looking item that has no impact on actual gameplay. Some might say that only farmers can get those rare items. Well I can’t really dispute that but why it is a bad thing I do not understand. The swords just look different for god sakes. There are some of us who play just for pve. Looking good in pve means something (I know some of you will be like “stupid pve idiot”) Unfortunately, farming is the only way for some of us to get items such as the dragon sword and 15k armor. What is wrong with farming for 15k armor? If you took away farming, there would be NO way to get 15k armor. You can no longer sell runes for gold so that gets rid of that option. Pvp yields no gold gain other than celestial sigils which nobody will be able to buy anyhow except those who already have a ton of gold. This essentially makes the 15k armor the property of those few who have already farmed. This is fine except for the fact that now nobody else can get the armor. I just don’t see what the game is trying to reward by making the 15k armor so rare anyhow. Is the game trying to reward pvpers? No. Is the game trying to reward people who play the pve game? No. The 15k armor was made for those wanted to spend the extra time to look a little different. This is why the armor values are the same as their 1.5k counterparts. PvP people won’t even care about 15k armor so why worry about pve people farming in order to create the funds to make an armor set that just looks different? What I am trying to say is, why has the guild wars dev team started a crusade against farming? There are some of us who like to farm for fun. There are some of us who actually want the 15k armor and special looking items not for an advantage in pvp but just to look good. From what I see, there are no disadvantages from allowing farming. Sure some of you might think there are no advantages either but that is no reason to eliminate it. I may have missed some disadvantages so if you see any, please post them so I can comprehend them and respond to them. |
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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass
I just finished my farming character. A couple of days ago.
Since then I have concluded that I still need to unlock, one minor, several major and most of the superior runes. My guild is NOT heavily PvP, but we all want to PvP as a guild. That said I need to unlock the runes. What has happened, is those that started farming days after release, (I know there are several), have what they need. Just shortly after release they cut back the rare drops, so those that came in right after that were SOL. Recently, they upped the drop rate slightly. The end result, those that started farming early, unlocked their runes, and ammased a huge bank of gold and platinum are at a severe advantage to this game vs. those that started a non-farming build, PvP or PvE. I cannot fully express how much this game has gone downhill since the BWEs. I wonder if it can ever be fun again? I know it would still be fun if I had unlimited money, or a way to grind for it, and had already unlocked the runes for PvP. If you have already farmed till you are blue in the face, unlocked your runes and have money to throw into fake beer, consider yourself lucky. |
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Originally Posted by asdar
Gah, you guys act like they killed farming.
They didn't, I don't care if you farm all day from morning till night. Farm away, farm till you have full accounts, destroy your stuff and farm some more. This patch did nothing to slow your farming even a little bit. It's not going to drive prices through the roof or force them to drop through the basement. The sky isn't falling that was acorn that hit your head little chick People aren't sick of you farming, they're sick of all the whining about this patch. Here's a secret, I wasn't going to buy anything from you 3 days ago, and I'm not going to now. Things are easy to get and this patch won't significantly change that. |
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Originally Posted by Crackerjak
The campaign against farming is ridiculous if you ask me, I agree with the original poster- farming is fun, because seeing that gold item pop up on your screen is nice. Farming hurts pvp IN NO WAY AT ALL. The purpose of farming was to get the BEST equipment, lets say for instance a superior vigor rune and a weapon with +30 life. I personally just like having perfect stats, and farm for that 30 hp bonus to my weapon. However, if you do not like to farm, then go buy the +28 life additive for like what.... 1k? Or go buy a bloody regular vigor rune, you lose what, 20 life? Go cry more, its doesn't even give you 1 extra hit. You act like the farmers are all godly and have such a HUGE advantage, when its totally team based and not item based. A team of 4 guildies with crappy weapons, and ascalon armor can easily beat a "godly" team of farmers. The farm should have been left in for those of us who like having a perfect character, and wanted something to do other than just pvp.
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