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Originally Posted by AW Trespasser
The one thing ati handles better than nVidia is anti- aliasing. Pound for pound, all things being ewqual such as memory and clock speed, nVidia 'tends' to outperform ati.
except when it comes to anti-aliasing. GW has such well done gfx that anti-aliasing can be turned off, and you would need a magnifying glass or a 50 inch monitor to see any difference between on/off. So, if you go with an nVidia card, turn anti-aliasing off. |
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Originally Posted by AW Trespasser
Note: None of the above is scientific fact, merely the observations gathered from a large group of opinions in from power users in AW.
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) is scientific fact, as proven in many (many) benchmarks and tests, and the personal unbiased experiences of myself, who has used almost all the Radeon X*** and Geforce6 graphics cards at one time or another. |
Originally Posted by Principa Discordia
Sorry, but this is only half correct. Antialiasing looks better on ATI cards in this game, yes, but only marginally. This is because Guild Wars is an ATI GITG (Get In The Game) title.
Look at the antialiasing in an Nvidia TWIMTBP (The Way It's Meant To Be Played) title and you'll say the opposite, but again, the difference is marginal. Telling him to "turn off AA on Nvidia" is absurd, as it still looks so damn good. Either way, the very slight difference in antialiasing quality is not enough to justify the difference in performance. The X850 XT PE is the only ATI X-Series card to outperform Nvidia Geforce6 series cards, and even then it's because the X850 XT PE doesn't even have an Nvidia counterpart and costs over €500, far outside the opening poster's budget. Simply put, the best card for his money is either a 6600GT or 6800GT, depending on how much he's willing to spend. Period. This is a non-biased and non-prejudgemental piece of advice. The 6600GT costs far less than his budget, the 6800GT costs around his budget, and both far out-perform their ATI counterparts (the ATI Radeon X700 Pro and X800 Pro respectively.) Note: The above (above the quote ) is scientific fact, as proven in many (many) benchmarks and tests, and the personal unbiased experiences of myself, who has used almost all the Radeon X*** and Geforce6 graphics cards at one time or another. |
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
don't joke with these kids. nVidia cards are better than ATI cards....and always have been.
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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia
Nah, I love both ATI and Nvidia equally. I just know that the Nvidia Geforce 6 series outperforms the ATI Radeon X*** series by far, and for better value for money.
ATI is only the better solution when you get down into the budget cards, I'd choose a Radeon 9*** over a GeforceFX any day of the week. PS. I use a Geforce 6600GT in this system and run Guild Wars in 1280x960 with 4x AA and 8x AF (forced). Looks perfect. The card can handle 1600x1200 with 4x AA and 8x AF but the buttons and text look way too small for me to cope with. PPS. To the original poster: The card Algren Cole suggested (BFG Nvidia Geforce 6800GT) is probably the best card in your price range, and is a damn fine card, but consider that you could probably get the BFG Nvidia Geforce 6600GT for a lot less and get the same performance in many games. |
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Originally Posted by Tyil Thunder Arrow
Let me tell you about the BFG 6600gt! After some uber noob stupidity on my part. I wiped the old drivers booted the new ones and this card ROCKS.
Running at 553mhz on chip and 1010mhz memory and performance 3D and it never gets hotter than 78. That's running guild wars at 1280x1024 with max visuals. Oh my gosd what a card. Counterstrike source runs 1280x1024 at 88.9 FPS. Not to sound like a fanboy but for the money $220 on newegg. You cant get a better factory overclocked card with a real lifetime warranty. |
Don't mistake me to mean the 6800GT though, the GT models are always quite a lot more powerful than the vanilla models, but a 6600GT being better than a vanilla 6800 is something I never expected when I bought it.|
Originally Posted by Principa Discordia
Nah, I love both ATI and Nvidia equally. I just know that the Nvidia Geforce 6 series outperforms the ATI Radeon X*** series by far, and for better value for money.
ATI is only the better solution when you get down into the budget cards, I'd choose a Radeon 9*** over a GeforceFX any day of the week. PS. I use a Geforce 6600GT in this system and run Guild Wars in 1280x960 with 4x AA and 8x AF (forced). Looks perfect. The card can handle 1600x1200 with 4x AA and 8x AF but the buttons and text look way too small for me to cope with. PPS. To the original poster: The card Algren Cole suggested (BFG Nvidia Geforce 6800GT) is probably the best card in your price range, and is a damn fine card, but consider that you could probably get the BFG Nvidia Geforce 6600GT for a lot less and get the same performance in many games. |
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Originally Posted by EcPercy
There should not be an ATI vs. Nvidia debate here. I recently picked up a BFG 6600GT OC. The only reason I went with Nvidia is because their Linux drivers are a lot better than ATI.
I have to say that the 6600GT OC is a good card, but my other system has a ATI 9800 Pro. I have owned 2 9800 Pro's, a 9000 Pro, 7500, and the ATI Radeon 64MB card. I recently gave my friend the original Radeon 64MB card. My 7500 is in my FreeBSD server and the 9000 pro just got taken out of my other computer to be replaced by the 9800 pro when I upgraded my system to the 6600GT OC. My father in law has the other 9800 Pro. The choice is up to you. The 6600GT OC is the best "bang for your buck" card. Nothing wrong with either company though if you ask me. |
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Originally Posted by EcPercy
The choice is up to you. The 6600GT OC is the best "bang for your buck" card. Nothing wrong with either company though if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by AW Trespasser
The one thing ati handles better than nVidia is anti- aliasing. Pound for pound, all things being ewqual such as memory and clock speed, nVidia 'tends' to outperform ati.
except when it comes to anti-aliasing. GW has such well done gfx that anti-aliasing can be turned off, and you would need a magnifying glass or a 50 inch monitor to see any difference between on/off. So, if you go with an nVidia card, turn anti-aliasing off. Note: None of the above is scientific fact, merely the observations gathered from a large group of opinions in from power users in AW. AncientWarriors A Multi-Game clan since 2000. |
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Originally Posted by Pyro Master
What is anti-aliasing?
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
don't joke with these kids. nVidia cards are better than ATI cards....and always have been.
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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia
You forgot to mention that you actually downgraded from a 6800. That alone makes a bold statement about the power of the dark si... I mean, the 6600GT.
And I forgot to mention that I pull almost 8500 in 3DMark03 with stock cooling and only a slight overclock, higher than quite a number of 6800 users. Don't mistake me to mean the 6800GT though, the GT models are always quite a lot more powerful than the vanilla models, but a 6600GT being better than a vanilla 6800 is something I never expected when I bought it. |
