Holy God am I angry - PvE and Ritualist ashes

It's been reported that Ritualist ashes have an aggro-grabbing effect, much like gears and books. It's like whoever is behind GW PvE has some kind of brain hemmorage, I mean we've had the gear and book tricks going on for what... 3,4 for months now without a fix then they add more ways to do it? Why don't they just give us a "Win" Button and save everyone the trouble?

If this makes it into release... that's it, I'm done with Guild Wars PvE.

What are your thoughts on this?

I think they do that because it is a general property of all items that you carry. Thus, Vengeful was Khanei is better than Signet of Judgement. They don't get knocked down so they hurt themselves more, it holds aggro, steals health, and isn't a freaking monk skill :P.

yeah I hate that.. tried playing a proper ritualist using the attune ashes, died in 3 seconds... never used ashes since then in PvE -.-

i'm not sure but i dont think that all ashes work this way - i've played rit for 10hrs and i didnt notice any uber-aggro when i hold some ashes... mb AI's weird again or only certain ashes are aggro object... have to wait till release to test it carefully.

I've been play Rit the whole time, I've not noticed any extra aggro soaking. I've managed to be in the middle of a mob, and not take any hits. I think this is Urban legend.

Same here, two days playing Ritualist now and haven't noticed there being an aggro difference while holding ashes. Actually, one little annoyance I had was having to wade into the fray around henchies so I could drop the ashes into the middle of the aggro heap... kinda wish they would aggro me with some of the spells.

We did a bunch of testing tonight, and we SPECIFICALLY pulled aggro onto the Rit (from very long range) every time she used the "Attuned was Song Kai" elite.

-M

yeah it does really suck
one rit tryied blind was blah blah on me
cus i am a warrior and counter attacked with spells

one word only: PLAGUE TOUCH OWNS

Yes, holding ashes does draw aggro. I'm sure this is unintended because right now, it is impossible to use any of these skills unless you wanna die in about 2.36 seconds.

I just verified this with my Ritualist and holding ashes does indeed draw all aggro towards you. I guess this would mean that with a W/Rt tank you could use the SF 5-man build in just about every PvE area now...

Strange, it worked fine last night. Guess something changed, or when I used them there was some circumstance that kept the aggro away. Oh well.

I noticed this happening too, I didn't know what was causing it and I got pretty damn pissed and stopped doing the PvE for a while. If they keep this behaviour then it will be the best way for annoying players to get their team killed.

Yeah, it does. I tried it out the first thing I did; it's geartank syndrome all over again.

My thoughts on this is that it's a fricking exploit that ANet seriously needs to nerf. The sooner the better.

This is so stupid it's ridiculous. Every ash skill will go unused by every Ritualist in the game. You can't even drop the ashes on the ground to save your life; if you do, they vanish into thin air. The only way this will be useful is for Warriors to exploit.

Please fix this, I beg you.

i just wish they fixed the whole book gear trick AI of mobs... i mean imagine if ppl did fow and sf the proper way.. wouldnt that put some serious cost on greens-shards? not to mention character skill.. cause now any warrior that knows how to activate skills can tank in sf and get greens out of luck only... isnt the game based on players skill?

I'm just going to dissagree with everyone here on every topic/post they have and call it a day.

I haven't noticed this so much yet with my bf's Ritualist, I've noticed i"ve been killed in three seconds with my Assassin without any idea what th ehell had hit me. We did see only once how everyone seemed to be attacking him specifically, it hasn't been too bad a problem yet though. But this is what the weekend is for, to find problems, experience new skills to work with, we'll all just have to see what fixes and changes come out of this weekend, inherenitly that is w hat it's for, to find problems in all the places they may have missed.

When mass amounts of thousands get ahold of this, problems will be found faster rather than with a team of may be a hundred. These sorts of preview events/beta events are great for it. We'll just see how this comes around. I need to make a ritualist at some pint to see this for myself...

Turn your weakness into a strength.

Go Rt/Mo and use smiting skills with the ashes, or even go with Rt/E and use PBAoE.

Could be alot of W/Rt's appearing as stance tanks once people work out the suitable farm areas.

truly, they need to fix such a stupid bug and at the same time stop the book/keg trick. been going on way to long and it makes an already shitty ai even more pathetic