My worst fears confirmed (as were my hopes)...

If anyone thinks people are getting rich by farming, they're sorely deluded.

Drop fatigue seems to activate sooner than ever. Most 55's farm the trolls now, and those were never a great money maker, even less so now with teh hundreds hitting them up now.

America rarely has favor anmore so there are even fewer bots in UW now, but drops there are lower than ever. The bot issue seems less pronounced in Euro servers, at least that I've noticed.

So remove the 55 and what happens? The people behind the bots form 3/4/5 man teams and still get as much gold for their boss to sell on ebay. End result? The honest 55'er gets shafted. Yes, there are legitmate players that run 55's to make some gold for themselves. No different than warrior soloing ettins, trolls, hydras, or whatever else.

The only ones with greed issues are the ones that buy from ebay, or game trade websites. These people don't farm or don't play.

The ones that ruin the game are the whiners and complainers. give it a rest already.

To the guy complaining about me whining...:

You have completly misunderstood what I have said...
I am against farming a such a high level area such as the UW and FoW...Not that but I am against 2 man / solo'rs
I know and consider that people need a way to get money...
I am only asking to stop 2/1 man. for the UW not farming itself. its the best way tpo make money.
(sorry if it sounded like that in other posts but htis is what I meant)

You have misunderstood my post like the othe guy... Check the post on top of me

just make classic 8 ppl party in UW/FOW and enjoy the place ^^

let em do their run

we both know that soloing FOW isnt for money but for challenge

pot. kettle. black

Im not saying do a classic 8 man...Im saying atleast do a reasnoble amount of people...more than two. Its more challanging; as it should be.

Lets not flame plz...

the point is ... make a new thread about this if u want, but not here ..

though i am pretty much on your side Saul, you might as well give up arguing this. it will turn into 8 pages of rant back and forth bickering to one another.

lets do something productive and post ideas in the GWch thread heh

Ive have had a 55 monk since a month after release and I can say that yes they are good at farming certain areas but they cant farm in as many places as a warrior. IMO the warrior is farm king does that mean he should be nerfed NO! There is and will allways be better ways and places to make gold than solo/duo UW.

The bottom line is that I think Anet will never remove players ability to solo farm and shouldn't because the fact is the PvE game is not that large and they need something i.e FoW armour - super rare skins to keep the older players interested until the next chapter.
If it wasnt for 55 and SS Uw runs, Spider farming or whatever I would have quit the game months ago.

Ummm.....perhaps in the world you come from Saul.....but here on this planet Isaiah is pretty well known as a male name in most languages.

I see 55hp monking as a inbalance in the pve world, and one of the main reasons i switched to pvp. I mean, here is a build which is by far the best at farming FoW etc, but it hasnt be nerfed!

Pls ANET, for the love of god, make the economy more balanced. That means giving other proffesions an equally viable way of making money, or nerfing this exploit. ppl say it will crash the economy, of course it wont, it will simply bring all the 55ers back to every1 elses level.

If they made an area specially designed for solo rangers, solo mesmers etc, what do u think the reaction would be? Get rid of the anomalie, and bring some balance to the pve world like u strive to do in the pvp world.

Uhh, Isaiah is definitely a guys name...

But, this is indeed not a nerf. 55 monks can continue just as they currently do. However, following in their later style (as evidenced by Ruins of Tombs), they will not let 55 builds dominate the newer areas. I really like this stance. Don't ruin what we got, but encourage/mandate new thought for successful strategies in the new areas. Way to go Anet!

wtf??

now that would be the best outlook on the whole situation

A+++ poster, would read again!

it was my way of laughing at you because your entire post was whining about it all and at the end you told him to stop whining.

i must be getting old if people dont know what "pot calling the kettle black" means lol

i have no idea of the meaning either huh ^^

(and i m old too )

/signed

The pot and the kettle are like old friends who have turned black with time. the pot only sees the blackness which is on the kettle, he doesn't see the black on himself.

A catchphrase used of people who blame others for faults that they themselves are also guilty of. It goes back to the days when both pots and kettles were equally likely to be blackened by the smoke of fires used for cooking

...yawn.