Oh great...Anet makes another stupid solo nerf!

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Splatter Mcnasty
Wilds Pathfinder
• #1
ANet has made yet another stupid solo nerf!

I enjoy solo hunting Avicara in Mineral Springs. This morning when I zoned into the area, I noticed a file download. I didnt think anything of it because I hadnt been into Mineral Springs for a few weeks...until Avicara actually started dying.

I use Shield of Judgement as part of my skill setup. Whenever a monster would die from my SoJ, I would not get ANY xp gain and no loot drop at all, and they were always in my radar bubble, so I know it wasnt a range factor.

I killed several mobs and it was always the same thing...they killed themselves on my SoJ, but I got no drops or XP. It happened with the Avicara Braves as well as the Fierce.

So I started doing some testing and it turns out that you now have to tag everything with your weapon/skill/spell in order to get any benefit from killing it. So to beat this particular nerf, I went around and hit each Avicara in the mob once before activating Shield of Judgement...Immediately I was getting XP and loot drops again.

What a pain in the ass. Thanks Anet, for making more ridiculous changes.
LordDeArnise
LordDeArnise
Krytan Explorer
• #2
Why is it ridiculous? I can understand why some want to solo it out, but Anet seems to have a stance where the nature of the fighting these days encourage a well-balanced group. Any solo nerfs they did lately wasn't as bad, as say, the night they nerfed ToA--UW solo monks big time.
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edudlooc13
Ascalonian Squire
• #3
After reading your post, I went to go try it, but not in MS. That's strange, maybe it's just in Mineral Springs. I kill minos over and over in Elona with SoJ, I still get exp and loot fine.
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Tyrent Frath
Krytan Explorer
• #4
...so let me get this straight

as a HEALING (not 55) monk, i now have to ATTACK to get any remote *chance* at getting a drop?

...you gotta be RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing kidding me

this is really starting to become a joke, going into game to test, will check back with info.
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ashed
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #5
Is this in the patch notes? I'm not saying you're wrong because I havent tried it yet, but if this is really true, theres going to be alot of unhappy people. Arenanet never liked solo players much it seemed. Often times the solo builds will get owned by the nerf bat. Some people just like to play solo, but they enjoy guild wars. Arenanet seems to slowly take away things for solo players. I know that SoJ was a good way for solo monks to go out and get xp for your skill points, so you can amass more skills...and now you're being forced to tag things or team up with people? Plus, not loot unless you tag them? Thats pretty wrong in my opinion. I think that any solo nerf they make is as bad as any they have made in the past. I don't really care what their stance is on the nature of fighting and such, the game has pve and some people just enjoy solo pve. There is nothing wrong with that except for the fact that Arenanet doesnt want it...and so they will force us to see things their way or quit.

I paid my 50 dollars for the game, why cant they let me play the game I paid for, not the game they think I should play?
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ashed
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #6
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
...so let me get this straight

as a HEALING (not 55) monk, i now have to ATTACK to get any remote *chance* at getting a drop?

...you gotta be RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing kidding me

this is really starting to become a joke, going into game to test, will check back with info.
Thats what I was basically saying, beat me to it. Please let us know how it works out for you.
Apple
Apple
Desert Nomad
• #7
I've done this with a 55hp monk. I just killed everything at the start of mineral springs (braves, fierces). I experienced no lack of drops. I rezoned into Tasca's, repeated. I ended up with 3 gold runes, and didnt wand anything. At all. It might just be anti-farm code
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
• #8
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Originally Posted by ashed
some people just enjoy solo pve. There is nothing wrong with that except for the fact that Arenanet doesnt want it...and so they will force us to see things their way or quit.

I paid my 50 dollars for the game, why cant they let me play the game I paid for, not the game they think I should play?
hi

they have already made an official note on this and it is ONLY the highest level areas where they are swinging the solo nerf bat.

to paraphrase it

*WHY SHOULD YOU EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO SOLO AN AREA DESIGNED FOR 8 PEOPLE AND GET 8X YOUR SHARE OF THE MOST VALUABLE ITEMS IN THE GAME?*

lower level farming is relatively untouched
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Tyrent Frath
Krytan Explorer
• #9
killed griffons and for the majority they all dropped stuff (my anti-farm was kicking in cause i farmed for 5 hours last night so some didnt drop much)

did trolls north of droks and they all dropped loot.

didnt do ettins cause honestly, i hate the ettin run.

will do dreaghnoughts (sp?) run later, see what i come up with.

so far, i havent experienced what you did.
kvndoom
kvndoom
Forge Runner
• #10
Screenshots, please. I played my 55 Monk a little this morning, got EXP, drops, and loot, saw no difference.
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Tyrent Frath
Krytan Explorer
• #11
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
hi

they have already made an official note on this and it is ONLY the highest level areas where they are swinging the solo nerf bat.

to paraphrase it

*WHY SHOULD YOU EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO SOLO AN AREA DESIGNED FOR 8 PEOPLE AND GET 8X YOUR SHARE OF THE MOST VALUABLE ITEMS IN THE GAME?*

lower level farming is relatively untouched
because i can

haha, j/k, but i understand that the UW solo is unreasonable (and actually becoming less popular IMO) because even 8 player teams have trouble doing it.

what i *dont* understand is why A-net swings nerfbat at 55-ers but not at trapping rangers?

or wamos?

honestly, if you swing nerfbat its fine, just make sure it hits all professions evenly.
shevaa
shevaa
Academy Page
• #12
You know I don't think anet is nerfing solo builds just to make everyone mad. I think they are nerfing solo builds to make it harder to run bots. They are setting it up so you have to be a real person at the computer playing the game to survive and get items and cash.
MMSDome
MMSDome
Raged Out
• #13
if you dont like the way Anet does things then dont play games they make. They are obviously going to make changes in game to make gameply more fair and whenever they come out with a new update you always have people complain. If thats all you do dont play.
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Eclair
Desert Nomad
• #14
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
...so let me get this straight

as a HEALING (not 55) monk, i now have to ATTACK to get any remote *chance* at getting a drop?

...you gotta be RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing kidding me

this is really starting to become a joke, going into game to test, will check back with info.
Exp in parties is shared though, so I think this thing only affects solo players.
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Tyrent Frath
Krytan Explorer
• #15
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
if you dont like the way Anet does things then dont play games they make. They are obviously going to make changes in game to make gameply more fair and whenever they come out with a new update you always have people complain. If thats all you do dont play.
trolling ftw

anyway, i was talking about loot in my post before, not experience shared, but i wasnt affected by it so it doesnt matter.
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
• #16
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
what i *dont* understand is why A-net swings nerfbat at 55-ers but not at trapping rangers?

or wamos?

honestly, if you swing nerfbat its fine, just make sure it hits all professions evenly.
when the tournament is over i expect some interesting rebalancing to occure

i predict the following

screams of anguish

sighs of relief

exclamations of joy

i further predict that on the day of the big rebalance the boards will top 2000 people possibly up to 2500
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Tyrent Frath
Krytan Explorer
• #17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
when the tournament is over i expect some interesting rebalancing to occure

i predict the following

screams of anguish

sighs of relief

exclamations of joy

i further predict that on the day of the big rebalance the boards will top 2000 people possibly up to 2500
this is why im stocking up on all the cash i can before the "great rebalancing" as i like to call it.

hm, who else predicts fingers of chaos to start popping up alongside the worms in presear?
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
• #18
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath

hm, who else predicts fingers of chaos to start popping up alongside the worms in presear?
shouldnt that be pieces of landscape popping up among the worms now and then?
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Tyrent Frath
Krytan Explorer
• #19
or the ocasional mindblade riding the countryside
MMSDome
MMSDome
Raged Out
• #20
They havent nerfed my forest minatour farming yet!!!!!!!!!!! Or Hydra farming!!! Its all so profitable to, i wont complain when they do, ill be happy cause ill do something other then farm the game Im always up for the new challenge, just bring it!