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Why does everyone say thunderhead keep is hard?
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It's mainly in the tactics that people use. I had one group with my Echo Nuker where we were short one warrior, and got through it on the first run, doing the bonus too, with all the hectic fighting.
Basically, you just have to have good teamwork and coordination to get through it on the first run or within 3 runs.
Basically, you just have to have good teamwork and coordination to get through it on the first run or within 3 runs.
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I think the hardest part of this mission is when you get either of the Monk bosses while defending the fortress. They can sometimes be a pain in the butt to kill esspecially if you don't have any interrupts. Over all though it is not what I would call hard to complete mission I would rate this mission moderate but if you do the bonus I would raise it more towards difficult.
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Originally Posted by The one Casey Squid
I mean you just kill stuff. I just beat it after both of our monks and a warrior left the game. It was me (ranger) two Ele's and two Necro's. I just dont see how its hard. You just kill everything that comes in.
Gross incompetence? That's usually the problem.
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There's a combination of two things that make it difficult. (1) The Jade/Mursaat boss mid-way through the hold-out, particularly the monk and/or warrior boss. (2)PUGs. They feel the need to all focus on that one boss, which can take a while to kill, while the rest of the mobs come in and kill you. The "boss last" rule still applies. Another "secret" is to take a mesmer along in your party, one that knows what they're doing. They can pretty much shutdown, or even kill those bosses while the rest of the party focuses on the minor enemies. So ThK isn't meant to be that hard, it just takes a bit more planning and cooperation between members.
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Yet another "secret" is to bring a stance tank with you. Why a stance tank, you ask? Welll...
...Generally all groups want to do one of two things - Split and defend the gates (not smart), or defend the stairs (much easier). Bringing a stance tank trivializes the entire mission once you get to part two, simply because...wait for it...you guessed it, they can hold a torch. It's just like SF and FoW - hold the torch, baddies attack you, everyone wastes the baddies virtually problem-free. It just makes me shake my head when people want to split up the group to defend the doors...
...Generally all groups want to do one of two things - Split and defend the gates (not smart), or defend the stairs (much easier). Bringing a stance tank trivializes the entire mission once you get to part two, simply because...wait for it...you guessed it, they can hold a torch. It's just like SF and FoW - hold the torch, baddies attack you, everyone wastes the baddies virtually problem-free. It just makes me shake my head when people want to split up the group to defend the doors...
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Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaik
Generally all groups want to do one of two things - Split and defend the gates (not smart)
Prolly not smart with superrandom groups, but I did the mission this way in a PUG with someone more experienced keeping the group in order and telling what to do. Not a single mob got past the gates. 
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Ive played THK a total of 3 times, with 2 characters. Always with a PUG. Its not hard, the only reason I lost the one is that we had an underpowered group and attempted bonus.
I find the trick is to get in a well balanced group. Most PUGs I see are like 4 W/* 1 monk and 3 rangers, or 1 W/* and 7 Casters. Get in a team with a varied player base. It also helps if you have atleast one person smart enough to use the catapults effectively. You should barely have to fight some of the groups because they spend so much time in the target areas. This is espcially true with the last group, the one made up of White mantle and Mursaat.
Sometimes Jalis moves away. STAY WITH JALIS. When I did it last, Jalis moved all the wayto one of the gates. While this would seem like a bad thing, it meant that the enemies from the other gate never got to him, and the ones for his gate never mattered because they were wasted by the Cats.
Bosses last.
I find the trick is to get in a well balanced group. Most PUGs I see are like 4 W/* 1 monk and 3 rangers, or 1 W/* and 7 Casters. Get in a team with a varied player base. It also helps if you have atleast one person smart enough to use the catapults effectively. You should barely have to fight some of the groups because they spend so much time in the target areas. This is espcially true with the last group, the one made up of White mantle and Mursaat.
Sometimes Jalis moves away. STAY WITH JALIS. When I did it last, Jalis moved all the wayto one of the gates. While this would seem like a bad thing, it meant that the enemies from the other gate never got to him, and the ones for his gate never mattered because they were wasted by the Cats.
Bosses last.
