Stop hating the paladins

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Pyrrhus
Pyrrhus
Academy Page
#21
I;m not fond of w/mo and w/r not because they get used alot it comes from bad experiences of some (not all) who feel they're invincible and don't do what the party leader wishes in order to acomplish the aims of the group. I am, however, quite partial to w/me because they can dish out a large amount of damage and aren't that egocentric.
The Real Roy Keane
The Real Roy Keane
Wilds Pathfinder
#22
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Originally Posted by RotteN
this is a video of 7 premade paladins (we swamped out restore life for res signet) and a fighter henchman taking out an IWAY group
Cmon man, an IWAY group with a Shadow of Fear Necro likely isn't up to much..but your right,any team with 8 competent players fully aware of their roles will always have a degree of success.
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Vermilion Okeanos
Forge Runner
#23
One time I was using w/mo in CA with hammer + smiting + condition removal. I was accused of being a w/mo noob with mending... I just ignored the guy (from my team too! and he said that after 3rd round of our wining; if the fragment of hope for human race is going to be shatter, I think this is one of the reason).
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Deathqueen
Lion's Arch Merchant
#24
There are different skills and different class combo's for a reason. To be what you want to be and not what someone else says you should be. I think everyone needs to put that at the top of their "ORDERS" list. But, in games like this without a true FREE FOR ALL FEATURE it brings about ELITISTS and that's when a game starts falling fast. And I like IWAY as well, though I only tried it once just to see what all the fuss was about and I saw no reason for the fuss myself. A well built team is just a well built team, a well built team with intelligence behind the build, now that is something to marvel at. MATH is impressive using the IWAY feature, I've seen countless others using it I just laughed at.
ignis
ignis
Frost Gate Guardian
#25
the reason for all the hatred is the general impression that people who play wamos give. they seem to be mentally challenged chavs.

also, there's just way too many paladin players who have no idea about what they're doing. I'm not saying all wamos are like that, but due to the trends in GW it seems that it's only AOL'ers and chavs that play paladins.
Riceboi
Riceboi
Wilds Pathfinder
#26
Since when did GW have a paladin class? w/mo=w/mo
I'm going to add paladin to the most hated word thread!
{IceFire}
{IceFire}
Forge Runner
#27
paladins or w/mo's are unfairly scapegoated to all losses and WIDE generalizations are made to ANY w/mo...
Arcien Trueflight
Arcien Trueflight
Academy Page
#28
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with W/Mo's until I actually started looking around for people to do missions with. That was when I saw 4/5 warriors had Monk secondary. And that half of them ended up on my team, put mending on, and rushed off to their deaths (and the failure of the mission) When I said something, I got "shut up u noob, ur just a gay ranger" (Direct quote. I swear on my life.) This was back before Rangers slowly were becoming more accepted, so any character that wasn't a Tank Nuker or Monk was instantly dismissed as someone with a brain disfunction or homosexual tendencies. (I'm straight, just for the record) I don't dislike W/Mo's in general. In fact, one of the most useful guys I ever played with was a W/Mo, who saved our asses so many times with rebirth while doing Villiany of Galrath I lost count. But, I'm not going to deny that most of them are brick-stupid and are more plentiful then hippies who smoked weed were in the 60's. Granted, you did find the non-weed smoking hippies, who I suppose you can compare to the good W/Mo's, but they were and are few and far between. Just the way it is.
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Fantomvz
Ascalonian Squire
#29
1) If u strong then people will hate u.
2) If u having fun, u can careless what other says.
3) If u think XXX build sux, don't use it!
4) If u keep flaming other, then u are a loser.

^_^`
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nirhan shadowmauler
Lion's Arch Merchant
#30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
Well in pvp....

Imagine you being the...err..monk...

Imagine 4 angry oppenents all targeting you, you heal yourself for a bit, the enemies take 2 casualties (almost at the same time, cuz no one is calling), then you die.

On the other side there are no wa/mo's and the 2 remaining players rez sig their mates.

On your side you have 3 wa/mo's who are furiously slashing a necro with Life Transfer (ZOMG HE WON'T DIE).

And you wait....and wait....and wait....no rez....another wa/mo goes down, the oppenents necro goes down....o wait he's up again, he gets rezzed.

And it takes ages and ages for them to kill the last 2 wa/mo's, cause they go in healing mode......

that's basically very biased in the arena's, but unfortunately the wa/mo is a favorite build there for those who just begun.... so that's where the hate comes from.
this is what judges insight is for. most necros pick the armor that is weak agaisnt holy. i exploit that. only reason ive been playing my warrior as a w/mo lately.

and someone else pointed out that putting points into tactics is more beneficial than putting points into healing prayers. well thats not so true for pvp. unless im tanking a warrior there is almost no reason to have a single tactics skill in pvp. in fact tactics is really only usefull for stance farming. and a r/mo is a better tank for stance farming than a warrior anyway. why? because they can use skills while using their defensive stances. its so nice to be able to set a trap while you tanking 20 enemies. r/w can really rock as a stance farmer too.
Griff Mon
Griff Mon
Wilds Pathfinder
#31
One of the characters I run is a W/E the only one I have finsihed the game with. I still use him and he is called for by my guild for FoW and Tombs. I also use him for farming as he is pretty much unstoppable in some solo areas and can take down twenty minoutars at a time. (Yes- the low level minoutars but what the hey).

He carries a staff to raise energy, runs Armour of Earth, then Earthquake, then Aftershock. Restarts Armour of Earth, switches to Hammer, run Bonnetti's defense, then Knockdown, then Aftershock. I've watched 20 minoutars drop at the same time doing this.

This build works great in FoW or SF when I hold the gear or the book, they beat on me all day and the healers have no trouble keeping me healthy although I need to throw in endure pain at times.

My warrior served his purpose, I pull him off the shelf when I need him or feel like solo farming
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Lews
Desert Nomad
#32
Alright, I'll make you a deal. Stop making the pallys and I'll stop hating.

There is nothing wrong with a Sword Warrior.... But the Paladin build just isn't good. =/
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Stayfrosty
Frost Gate Guardian
#34
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat ltteres are at the rghit pcleas. The rset can be a toatl mses
and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by ilstef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Case and point for all you native english speakers.......

back on topic, People dont hate W/Mo's its really justa few people stirring up the trouble... its always the majority run by the minority.
The reason for this alleged hate is that in pvp the prebuilt paladin build is what most people who just want to go up and whack away will pick.(as opposed to planning out and thinking before they take action) If you know how to play your build and you dont ignore calls and such by all means continue on playing it and ignore the complainers.
BBoy_Manchild
BBoy_Manchild
Banned
#35
i hate wammos cause they are ineffecient in pvp, pve its fine use all the self healing and stances you want, you are there to be a human shield. in pvp putting attributes in healing prayers and wasting skill slots for healing skills really deminishes your offense, which is what a pvp war is used for. in pve the people who use wammos are 90% newbs, the rare 10% are really good but the chances are against you
VGJustice
VGJustice
Desert Nomad
#36
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Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
On your side you have 3 wa/mo's who are furiously slashing a necro with Life Transfer (ZOMG HE WON'T DIE).
LMAO, you just made my night with that! I've seen it, that's why it's so funny XD

But, seriously, people see the W/Mo throw Mending on themselves and they INSTANTLY know that that person is exactly like the WamMo Selfmendingers that plague the CA. They have probably been burned so many times by players that DON'T think about their team that it's made them bitter towards all those that bear the same job as those that have slighted them. So, basicly, it's nothing personal, it's just revenge.

Honestly, if they can't tell the difference between a good player and a bad player, you don't really want to group with them anyway.

On the other hand, just a recomendation, proper spelling and grammer (or at least very close to it) will go a long way in helping you get into a party.
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Mormegil
Krytan Explorer
#37
Is this really a W/Mo thread? And it didn't turn into a flamefest yet?

Where are the good ol' flamers? Ahhhh, GWguru is not the same it was some months ago.
Sekkira
Sekkira
Forge Runner
#38
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phantom
just b/c tsomeone uses mending when they are a w/mo doesnt make them a n00b
Why not?

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Originally Posted by Deathqueen
Well I think the W/E's suk, a waste of a 2ndary if all you're going after is a KD spell of Gale. Now a W/N with strip enchantment and a nice heal besides on the other hand with a sword thas the ticket and every other class combo suks. bwahahaha I can't count the number of 105/55 build monks I have fudged up in PVP with my warrior. heh heh heh

Reminds me of a song by Freddy Fender: "Wasted Gales and Wasted Knights" hehe
Because in a proper PvP build, each one of the 8 players has a specific role to play. It's the warrior's job to apply pressure/damage/kill things. It's the monks job to heal/protect/smite things, and so on and so forth. You don't make a warrior that kills/damages/strips enchantments and heals.

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Originally Posted by pintpointfive
That IWAY team sure did have a lot of Healing Signets o.o
An IWAY team without res sigs is something to be ashamed of.
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Orbberius
Krytan Explorer
#39
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Because in a proper PvP build, each one of the 8 players has a specific role to play.
You should really tell War Machine about this, I don't think they know.
Sekkira
Sekkira
Forge Runner
#40
Someone hasn't been paying attention to what they do then.