300 new Skills, how to get them

"300 new skills total, 90 of which are new elite skills"

I don't anticipate this to be a very easy 300 skill points. There ought to be a way to get exp fast other than checking when your country has the favor and then doing UW/FoW (basically all I do nowadays since completion of all missions; quests like orozar give roughly 5k exp NOT skill points).

I know farming gives lots of exp, but it is darn mindnumbing pressing the same skillset over and over (with no changing circumstances) and boring to me. And I don't play to be the richest, most bored person ingame...so...

Considering we only get one slot, and getting to Cantha means access to the As & Ri classes, skill points on existing characters will be an inevitable pain for those of us that play casually but want to have all classes' skills nonetheless.

Take for example someone with 4 PvE characters. Upon release of Guild Wars: Factions, you need 300 skills. Even if split evenly it is 75 skill points each. Even if you rotate characters, it will eventually become VERY boring to get those skill points.

There should be quests for skills or skill points.

*Just a thought on the way we are heading with a sudden influx of so many skills. This is not so much a suggestion, more of a discussion of how, at this point, people will get those 300 skills.

but you'll probably be able to get skills through quest rewards most of the time and it will probably be the same as now where u can get all the skills through quests except a realatively small amount of skills taht u have to buy and the elite skills.

Well, 55 more missions means 55 more skill points, for each of those four characters. That is 220 skill points, then you have quests that will give you skills and not require skill points.

Plus, there is always faction

ascending gives you a lot if you do it at lvl 20, you cycle your level like 4 times, plus the skill point for the mission. if you want pvp skills, then pvp a lot for the faction

hey, now I know what to do w/ the useless 235 skill pts on my monk =)
too bad i deleted my ele who had a worthless 100+ skill pts

i wish i could trade them in for snowman summoners or something!

Sounds like PvP is for you

Plus it's not as though you need all of them, such as if your an PvE Air Elementalist it wouldn't be that big a deal if you didn't have every new Earth elite. Of course if you want every skill you can't really start getting picky and choosy by saying what methods you'll refuse to use.

I know I'm grinding out the last 325k exp I need to have 300 skill points in reserve for when Chapter 2 comes out. 90 elites to cap though... that's gonna be time consuming to say the least.

I have heard that during this weekend of the 20th-22nd, you can use faction to unlock Assassin and Ritualist skills for your account. I've heard it from a few people, and maybe I saw it on here as well. I'm kinda tired at the moment of posting this.

If thats true that would be awesome. I'll definately unlock some cool stuff (Provided we get to keep it that is)

300 skills, 150 for core classes (25x6), so that leave another 150 skills for ritualist and assasin.

So assuming each of them get 75 skills, each line get 1 or 2 elites, assuming 4 attribute lines; that is about 134k factions for all the normal skills, and 48k for 16 elites. Another 36k factions for all the rune (if they dont add new rune similar to vigor/absorbtion), while assasin weapon mods also need another 18k+ to unlock.

236k factions more or less will be needed to unlock everything for ritualist and assasin... I don't even have 200k factions from all my playing (got only around 140k total factions)... T-T

I hope good build idea hit me instantly when I look at the skill list.

60 old professions - normal skills (10 skills a prof.)
90 old professions - elite skills (15 elites a prof)
==> 60.000 + 270.000 = 330.000 faction

This leaves:
75 ritualist skills
75 assassin skills
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150 skills new professions

The assumption of 2 elites for each attribute is probably to conservative. Current professions have around 75 skills, and have 13-16 elites. Therefore 15 elites a profession is a better assumption.

120 new professions - normal skills
30 new professions - elite skills
==> 120.000 + 90.000 = 210.000 faction

Total Faction: 540.000 faction for skills

EDITING for runes...

minor 1000
major 1500
sup 2000
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4500 for each attribute.
x 8 attributes

Total faction: 36.000 faction for runes

I'll take the assumption regarding weaponmods, to lazy to find out.
weaponmods: 18.000 faction

So 594.000 faction for Chapter 2 if only playing pvp
And 264.000 for only the new professions if only playing pvp.

If one plays pve, this amount will probably drop considerably because of skillpoints, and hopefully skillquests.

I doubt our core classes are getting any new skills for jan 20-22, so that part I am not too worry about.

Interesting thought just hit me:
If the assassin and ritualist can access Chapter 1 content, will the skillquests from Chapter 1 give them skills?

And following for Chapter 2:
If the 'old' professions only have 10 normal skills, will there only be 10 max. skillquests in Chapter 2?

where do you get 300 new skills? I know of 25 new skills per core class (15 of which are elite; but still 150 skills) guessing each new class has only 75?

Im almost half way for all the core classes; 69 of 150 left...

Well, as Anet said that each new chapter will have 2 new classes. While as some digging into their sentence, they might have suggested that buyer of only chapter 3 won't be able to use chapter 2 classes. So in that sense, you will not be able to get any assasin skills and ritualist skills from anywhere in chapter 1 nor chapter 3 (they probably can get core proffession skills).

The 2nd question's answer is probably up in the air. If chapter 2 got new quest for the same skills of chapter 1, it would defintely make it easier to obtain all skill unlock on a single pve character much easier.

I think Anet meant for new classes to create on the new chapter and have the same effect where you can unlock just about everything in PvE (or grind with faction) as it now.

As they add each chapter the game is going to get much longer but that is to please "this game is too short" people have been vocal about. Think how many hours a pure PvE can do with say three chapter(s) of adventures compared to Chapter 1 only. I am looking forward to taking me Ele on to a new land to face new challenges (and more after that is defeated).

About Chapter 3..4 I can see a Chapter 1 & 2 game bundle or a huge price drop on older chapters (maybe $20)

I unlock more skills playing PVP than PVE, so if you want to unlock skills faster then play PVP. PVE is the grinding game as it should be, what fun would the PVE game be if you got everything so easily? I think they have done an excellent job of making it if you like PVP you get skills a lot faster through faction farming (pvping basically and I get most of mine in the 4x4 random arena 10000 every couple of days unlocks a lot of skills). And the PVE game well skills come slower, yes, this is true, but, even there I have lots of skill points saved up for Factions. But, I play basically ONE character in PVE, I put all my time and effort into ONE character so it doesn't feel like an awful lot for me to gain or need skills anymore since I have all the ones I want for that ONE charcter. Now it's just a saving game so I can start perhaps an assassin/ritualist and have lots of skills I can buy once the game is released. Or if the changing of secondary class is not too far into the game I can rush to that, change my secondary to assassin or ritualist and then buy the skills that way also. It's going to be great either way, can't wait.

Wow it's not even out yet and people already working out how to get everything in one day... I can understand for PvP, but for PvE I think (I hope) they put an "ember light camp" skills guy right at the end of the expansion. I don't understand why people would want everything all at once right at the start (of the PvE game)

'cuz by calculating the amount of time it would take to get everything they get one more reason to demand a retail version of the game with all skill/item/mod/rune unlocked

I dont forsee any plan of the part of Anet to make any bundle of the chapters. The chapters are stand alone that dont require previous chapters of guild wars and seeing the way this game is made without monthly fees i think it would be pretty reasonable of them to ask full retail price for every chapter people buy.