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First of all Ikki is 1000% a collector more than he is a trader. He's custod stuff that tons of others don't have the balls to.
That being said I disagree with these prices. Usable rare skin wands with 20/19 or 20/20 are and should go for more.
I understand attribute and req make a huge difference, but if a 20 20 Q9 healing Holy Rod can go for 3000e to Calli, why can't an eternal flame wand with 20/19 go for 400-500? Skin rarity for matching 20/20 mods are entire orders of magnitude apart from each other (Core>Eternal Flame/DBW equivalent > Amber/Jade/Plague>Wayward>Cele>Plat>Zodiac).
Honestly, has anyone even ever seen a matching 20/20 Wayward or Zodiac? I've seen a Plat Wand and and Cele Scep with Illusion and 2020 Insp, and a Golden Pillar 20/20 Earth, and a few other 20/19s
So, that being said that Plat Wand is even better Sys. People underrate how insanely rare 20/20 and similar mods are. 20/19 ones are hard sells maybe to those who don't collect wands, but not to a collector.
I see this one going to 500 at least. Talk to Soren (Aliza Eisrep); suspect they will be interested. Your real issue I think wil be interest, but people like Monk items.... There's no doubt you will find someone.
That being said I disagree with these prices. Usable rare skin wands with 20/19 or 20/20 are and should go for more.
I understand attribute and req make a huge difference, but if a 20 20 Q9 healing Holy Rod can go for 3000e to Calli, why can't an eternal flame wand with 20/19 go for 400-500? Skin rarity for matching 20/20 mods are entire orders of magnitude apart from each other (Core>Eternal Flame/DBW equivalent > Amber/Jade/Plague>Wayward>Cele>Plat>Zodiac).
Honestly, has anyone even ever seen a matching 20/20 Wayward or Zodiac? I've seen a Plat Wand and and Cele Scep with Illusion and 2020 Insp, and a Golden Pillar 20/20 Earth, and a few other 20/19s
So, that being said that Plat Wand is even better Sys. People underrate how insanely rare 20/20 and similar mods are. 20/19 ones are hard sells maybe to those who don't collect wands, but not to a collector.
I see this one going to 500 at least. Talk to Soren (Aliza Eisrep); suspect they will be interested. Your real issue I think wil be interest, but people like Monk items.... There's no doubt you will find someone.
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trust me,I have been a monk collector for a long time. and I bought the q9 20/20 prot holy rod for 880e i think, from emma and prot is more expensive than heal.
Secondly 20/19 is not that high,doesnt matter if its for other caster proffs or for monk.
I guess the skin can raise the price a little,but not much.
Its like comparing a q9 30hp -5 19% shield with a 30hp -5 20% shield.
The price difference is huge and 500e suggestion for a 20/19 wand is insane,except for plat wand skin,that could go beyond any price I can think of.
And I have seen his collection of what he has costud so I know what your saying,but he charge "sometimes" a little more than its worth.
@expugnare:and what you consider the rarest wand skin order is entirely up the individual person.
and a q9 20/20 wand or offhand is way more rarer and valuable,its not surprising that some spend a fortune on such items.
but that plat wand can go really high if the interest is from multiple people even tho the att illu but hsr/hct insp
Secondly 20/19 is not that high,doesnt matter if its for other caster proffs or for monk.
I guess the skin can raise the price a little,but not much.
Its like comparing a q9 30hp -5 19% shield with a 30hp -5 20% shield.
The price difference is huge and 500e suggestion for a 20/19 wand is insane,except for plat wand skin,that could go beyond any price I can think of.
And I have seen his collection of what he has costud so I know what your saying,but he charge "sometimes" a little more than its worth.
@expugnare:and what you consider the rarest wand skin order is entirely up the individual person.
and a q9 20/20 wand or offhand is way more rarer and valuable,its not surprising that some spend a fortune on such items.
but that plat wand can go really high if the interest is from multiple people even tho the att illu but hsr/hct insp
I agree Prot is generally more expensive than heal. Cali still payed 3000e for a healing one, which is 3-4x more than what I personally think its worth. This was two years ago, so adjusted for ecto price is something like 5000e nowadays.
My point is that people can and will pay stupid amounts for the right item. Obviously Cali has unlimited money to spend, but that doesn't mean Sys should undersell an item that can go for higher.
Saying he can't get more than 30-40e is just wrong; I'm not sure if he will get 400-500 for Eternal Flame, but he *could*. More likely and easy to get it as 20 20, but like I said I can count the number of matching Canthan rare skin 20 20 and 20 19's I have seen (and I've been a wand/staff/offhand collector for a pretty long time) on my fingers.
It all makes/breaks on if people are currently interest.
My point is that people can and will pay stupid amounts for the right item. Obviously Cali has unlimited money to spend, but that doesn't mean Sys should undersell an item that can go for higher.
Saying he can't get more than 30-40e is just wrong; I'm not sure if he will get 400-500 for Eternal Flame, but he *could*. More likely and easy to get it as 20 20, but like I said I can count the number of matching Canthan rare skin 20 20 and 20 19's I have seen (and I've been a wand/staff/offhand collector for a pretty long time) on my fingers.
It all makes/breaks on if people are currently interest.
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Ye,3000e for the heal 20/20 q9 is just to much for it,and I kinda agree if the right people is interested in it,it could get up to 5000e.
I dont think sys is underselling it,its not worth 400-500e.
I mean maybe its possible to get 100e for eternal wand.
And ye,it is easyer to get 20/19 than 20/20 matching mods,and even getting 20/19 matching mods is hard/rare,but its not worth that price.
And ye,I totally agree with you there,as I said to,it depends on how many are interested in said item.
but people pay crazy amount for certain items,like the paper fan skin,even with crappy mods it went high a while back.
But OP can chose to ignore my thoughts ofc.
I dont think sys is underselling it,its not worth 400-500e.
I mean maybe its possible to get 100e for eternal wand.
And ye,it is easyer to get 20/19 than 20/20 matching mods,and even getting 20/19 matching mods is hard/rare,but its not worth that price.
And ye,I totally agree with you there,as I said to,it depends on how many are interested in said item.
but people pay crazy amount for certain items,like the paper fan skin,even with crappy mods it went high a while back.
But OP can chose to ignore my thoughts ofc.
Well, well, what do we have here? 
It just so happens that I'm visiting this neck of the woods due to some delightful (though unexpected) circumstances. I must say that I find it amusing that people presume to have knowledge of trades they certainly were not a part of, claiming some fallacious prices as fact. Some things never change!
As for the wand, my guess would be around a stack. I never much cared for the skin, but it's a relatively desirable one (I guess?) with a 1-off stat. I honestly don't feel that much of anything is accomplished in the price check threads since items are ultimately only ever worth what others will pay for them; the replies are nothing but speculations and +1s for my lovely fellow Guru users (and now for me. Oh dear.).
I've also been gone for a long while, so take this pc (as any) with a pinch of salt.
It just so happens that I'm visiting this neck of the woods due to some delightful (though unexpected) circumstances. I must say that I find it amusing that people presume to have knowledge of trades they certainly were not a part of, claiming some fallacious prices as fact. Some things never change!
As for the wand, my guess would be around a stack. I never much cared for the skin, but it's a relatively desirable one (I guess?) with a 1-off stat. I honestly don't feel that much of anything is accomplished in the price check threads since items are ultimately only ever worth what others will pay for them; the replies are nothing but speculations and +1s for my lovely fellow Guru users (and now for me. Oh dear.).
I've also been gone for a long while, so take this pc (as any) with a pinch of salt.
Yep ultimately all speculation which is why I always tell people to wait and have patience. But if you pay good attention to how things sell and don't base your guessing on personal opinions like certain people do, then you can get a pretty good idea. If you have to base it on your opinions then you shouldn't comment. It's what others will pay and if they like it, not you. lol
Also Plekki undersells tons of stuff. He doesn't like to hold things. Again, personal opinions like that are useless.
Personally - I like the skin but stuff that is off bugs me. :P I collected some off's over the years and trying to get rid of most of it. lol
I'd try for 250e+, could see this going higher. Not sure about 500e at R10 and one off tho.
Don't get me wrong - opinions in the case of prices are fine if you actually think about others and not just yourself. Taking that into thought is far more important. Rarity makes a difference here too. Collectible and not just an old base skin. You have to think about everything. No one gives two craps about what you think about the skin. They are asking what others might think and might pay.
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But if you pay good attention to how things sell and don't base your guessing on personal opinions like certain people do, then you can get a pretty good idea. If you have to base it on your opinions then you shouldn't comment. It's what others will pay and if they like it, not you. lol Also Plekki undersells tons of stuff. He doesn't like to hold things. Again, personal opinions like that are useless.
Personally - I like the skin but stuff that is off bugs me. :P I collected some off's over the years and trying to get rid of most of it. lol
I'd try for 250e+, could see this going higher. Not sure about 500e at R10 and one off tho.
Don't get me wrong - opinions in the case of prices are fine if you actually think about others and not just yourself. Taking that into thought is far more important. Rarity makes a difference here too. Collectible and not just an old base skin. You have to think about everything. No one gives two craps about what you think about the skin. They are asking what others might think and might pay.
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I had eternal and another skin mixed up. Apparently I had 3 dragons breath wands instead.