Thursday July12, 2012 Update

It only hurts those who seeks to bypass parts of the game. Not the people playing the game as intended

no teleport anymore? man, thats bad for pve imo
although wiki says "Prior to the July 12, 2012 update, the affected party members were also teleported to the user but with zero energy."

those scrolls arent even used by anyone i know/knew in GW in pve... dunno about pvp

i actually was thinking about it should give the affected ones to get 15% energy at least

i hope the teleport still works, cuz i like to use these in pve... at least for some parts in the game, and chars based on having no res skills (no pvx or overpowered stuff) but still having a way to res my heroes

oO you've beaten even yourself now.

Better late than never. Now they should also fix all kinds of exploiting via teleports and shadow steps.

beaten myself? explain when replying

and some "exploits" should stay, like dunes of despair, and the other exploring ones arent bad to keep in GW

"those scrolls arent even used by anyone i know/knew in GW in pve... dunno about pvp"

wiki :

Scroll of Resurrection

Uses remaining: 1
Double-click to resurrect all dead party members within earshot at 25% Health and Energy. This item cannot be used in PvP.

The update page :

* The functionality of Scroll of Resurrection has been changed to: "Double-click to resurrect all dead party members within earshot at 25% Health and Energy. This item cannot be used in PvP."


...
what drkn said needs no explaining.

Of course they are bad. It is very possible to beat it without using them. But ArenaNet knows the extreme outrage from the vocal minority that would come if they decided to fix them.

More like if they fix them cartography becomes nigh-impossible in prophecies as there's quite a few areas that are impossible to reach normally, or requires replaying of missions over and over again due to time/npc-death constraints....

They'd have to fix cartography to normally-reachable areas only first if they're going to touch any of the cartography-related "exploits"... and knowing them this'll never happen

The GvG update isn't good. Basically, it's what i said a few time ago about how to poorly update things..

That way of fixing is clearly going to make players stop ( since you would need to create a new guild) thus :
- there will be even less opponents( yes, because probably 40% of those players were still usually playing to farm the reward)
- fair players under 950 won't get any reward after a match
- codex says hi

do i even have to explain i meant BEFORE this change? i thought people would understand

Lol SC people still use res scrolls? That trick is so old, it's easier to get into a door easier than a silly scroll.

How?



==================

>implying those people exist and really care that much about getting a couple of boxes

Not really. Rebirth teleports a long distance, so allows you not to get near and get party members out of aggro. Earshot is so pityful that you'll likely resurrect them in aggro range anyway, or at least get yourself in risk while ressing. I hardly ever considered the telport of those scrolls a real teleport. Being able to resurrect your whole team with a bit of energy instead can help...imho.

Thing is however, I have done Cartographer on several characters, each time without ever using these kind if exploits, so it is very possible.

People are just too lazy and want everything served instead of actually working for it.

Anet required the use of teleporting in Urgoz. They won't bother changing an intentional exploit. Cartographer on dunes of despair without the teleport exploit would be pretty damn tedious lol. The teleport exploit was probably only deemed a problem on speedclears because it's not viable with just using necrotic traversal/consume corpse.

Rebirth is the most apt comparison to a skill. earshot is very nearly the same radius, and often you don't need the entirety of the range.

As for this, how does not needing to carry a rez bypass the game? The only people who abused scrolls were high end sc people. day to day Pugs never did it.

Scroll of Ressurection no longer ressurects.
Oh wait


They used to res then teleport, meaning any aggro was triggered. A typical pug will still find themselves in the same situation as before.

I don't mean using them in a Pug, unless it's UW/FoW or somewhere. If I'm going with heroes it's nice to be able to rez out people myself in the event that something goes catastrophically wrong.

Now say some people/heroes die in the middle of a mob and someone manages to break away without dying, rezing the team at 25% hp/energy in the middle of a horde of foes is far from useful.

Actually i speed clear and play the game as directed,but what happens when a terra dies in underworld and you need him to be rezed right under you? say in lab when the LT dies? the teleport is crucial to him living?? So actually you are wrong on that part.

Oh. Nice. One less tool for these lazy SC skippers.

That one was rare, but still happened.

If you want to SC, fine, but at least kill the stuff in your way instead skipping. B fast, but be fast killing, instead having some guy running ahead and then teleport people from behind a wall.