Ranger Vaettir Farm [No Touch, No PvE Skills, 60 pull]

great build - now find a way to do it without complaining about how sins are overpowered then turning around and using the profession's elite skill Thanks I think?

This is the first time I posted here so I'm not really sure if you are referring to me complaining about sins...

On a lighter note, I think you'll find it amusing that Shadow Form is the only elite I've capture for an assassin :P

I'm not exactly sure why one wouldn't use PvE skills while vaettir farming since it is in eotn where u access them....dwarven stab+serpents quickness...will rc sf w/o the downfall of dp 10sec non attack. I'm guessing the loss of storm chaser would prohibit the e-management....

I think it would be safer to just use shroud, because even with the bug, you will occasionally take some damage, and shroud is an excellent, "aw crap" net. Take a look at the video, you'll see there aren't any "oh crap" moments

The only time you take damage is the time between casting the first SF/Perfection and the second SF/Perfection, which is not enough to kill you or really give you a freak out.

Also, the third cast of SF/Perfection will give you immunity from behind so you can stand with your back to them and /dance to all the 0's on the screen.

This post prompted me to learn Vaettirs , E/Me way. It works nice, since dmg with Obi Flesh is not capped as is w/SF (plus I cant run Shadow Form for a reason unknown to me), but it leaves no room for mistakes. If I fail do cast glyph of swiftness-obi flesh-stone flesh = death.

But even when I get used to the correct cast sequence, there is a few "aw crap" moments when just one single Vaettir manages to break out of aggro and kill me by degen when I run outta energy. Is there any hint to avoid this kind of thing or should I map out ASAP when this happens?

Im eager to learn to proper farm vaettirs to get survivor for my HoM. can u post the build and armor setup and weapon your using - ive farmed them as sin/mes and ele and im surprised as ele you have energy issues.
Ele farm is more forgiving than sf version - you can survive on ele at best 1 foe getting degen on you - ive survived with around 80hp before.But sf has its own bonus - it doesnt halt you like when on ele you cast obby - sin stops only for less than a second which allows you to move and position - ele can be bodyblocked by time obby chain is cast.

can u post the build and armor setup and weapon your using - ive farmed them as sin/mes and ele and im surprised as ele you have energy issues.
Ele farm is more forgiving than sf version - you can survive on ele at best 1 foe getting degen on you - ive survived with around 80hp before.But sf has its own bonus - it doesnt halt you like when on ele you cast obby - sin stops only for less than a second which allows you to move and position - ele can be bodyblocked by time obby chain is cast. My build is: AWRATIlssjBQ6rN+q3UZAAAAA
(last 2 slots I'm still working on some ideas..)

Equipment:
Runes: +3+1 Earth
+1 Energy Storage
Vigor
Atunement
Geomancer insignias
20/20 Earth Scroll
Totem Axe (+5en / +20% ench)

When things goes as they should, I have no problem surviving or even with energy. Its quick and clean..

The fact I reported happened, to say, 1 or 2 times, when a Vaettir simply ran away from the group, recovered its HP and when I finished the group, it just came back and got me with my pants down. I even survived for a time, but with only 1 foe hitting me, the energy gained by MoE was not enough to keep the build and kill it, so..I died.

can u post the build and armor setup and weapon your using - ive farmed them as sin/mes and ele and im surprised as ele you have energy issues.
Ele farm is more forgiving than sf version - you can survive on ele at best 1 foe getting degen on you - ive survived with around 80hp before.But sf has its own bonus - it doesnt halt you like when on ele you cast obby - sin stops only for less than a second which allows you to move and position - ele can be bodyblocked by time obby chain is cast. A full setup of Vaettir debuffs takes away somewhere between 400-450hp. The best part is that Vaettir's only spell damage is from hexes, so even if you let your Obsidian Flesh drop for 10 seconds you still won't die as long as you get it up before they recast Phantom Pain.

I got fairly accustomed to it as I have been running E/Me the last two weeks with Cupcakes+Pumpkin Pie+Golden Eggs (all but Cupcakes are somewhat optional) using an advanced E/Me pull where I let OF drop intentionally for faster clears.

* Eat Cupcake for speed buff
* Run just until before you aggro. Cast Glyph+OF.
* Gather up a side until there only is 5 or less seconds left on OF
* Cast SA (Normally the cupcake speed buff should be enough before this to avoid taking any serious, as in reducing your hp to below 450hp, damage)
* Continue gathering while OF drop and then position yourself so they'll come at you from one side.
* Recast OF and be prepared to back away a step at a time as they come at you quickly (this is the whole reason for dropping OF). For best effect you want everyone on the same side, but if you get surrounded it will just take a bit longer killing them.
* Now it is generally best best to wait a few seconds and recast SA, as otherwise you'll usually end up with a few runners.
* Once SA is recast do the usual tab until you see Aura of Lyssa cast bar and cast your two Wastrels.
* Once you have hit with three sets of Wastrels finish them of with Crystal Wave plus Teinai's Crystals.

* If you got surrounded or had runners around the third Wastrel set, don't use your crystal spells, but instead refresh OF+SA (this is where I like to have pumpkin pie or golden egg so that you never have to panic about both coming of cooldown at the same time) and continue using Wastrel's to kill the main group. Then gather the stragglers and finish them with crystals and wastrel's.