GW's Rich And Famous

Well I think it depends on when you played the game and what you did play? For example my boyfriend has played since beta, and he got into the high end stuff really quick. He got into high en HA & WM GvG top 20. He got Oni's, shirokens and all that stuff. That's how he got rich. I know that some people took breaks and saved their money. I am by no means that rich however. I can buy everything I want, but minis are not one of those, and it would ofc take me a while unless I joined some DoASC guild. Before they banned all the bots there were tons of people with über rare minis and tousand of ectos. Alot of people got that money from botting, and there are people still who get the money from botting. I can't explain the people with 1000e other than

1. They have farmed it for a really really long while, with for example DoASC(Not DwG).
2. They were gifted one of the most expencive minis before they went so high in price.
3. They bought a mini before they went so high in price(Like my bf sold his oni and shiroken when they were cheap ).
4. They bot, or buy gold.
5. They are incredibly good scammers.

I would and have "set straight" any player that was selling something of value for peanuts. As far as your fictional "not newb in a high-level outpost" player is concerned - I'd sooner lend him those 10k he needs so desperately and continue with my affairs. Sounds weird, right?

1000e really isn't that much.. We're talking 10,000-100,000 ecto here...

I agree if I decide to really do a lot of DoA sc with my guild and get average lets say 40-45 minute runs and do 2-3 runs a day. It isn't very difficult to produce a stack of ecto in less than a month.

Shadeblade you must be a genius lol. No i agree with what shadeblade says. You got to find out what's in demand first. Once you find out what's "popular" you start farming them starting small. For example, what shadeblade says. Ever since the update to alcohol and sweet tooth there has a been a rise in demand for them. Try to sell the full title and them move on to rare weapons, minis, etc... You'll start accumulating money quite fast. What shadeblade is referring to is the "buy low and sell high strategy". This strategy does work assuming the traders have no idea of what the items are worth. But for the players that do their not willing to sell them that cheap. It all comes down to patience. If you got patience, then you'll eventually get the rare items, hopefully lol.

U can get like 500e/month if u do about 6-7runs/day
so like 4hours/day, isn't that long tbh(6-10pm or w/e)
10months= 5000e
and then u still can trade in between so u can double up rly 'quickly' if done right

There is what should be an obvious sample bias with SCers and personal wealth because you already represent a very small minority of the playerbase. The average player is never going to reach 1000e in Guild Wars. From that perspective it's easy to see why that much ecto can seem (but isn't) extraordinary.

PvP ZQuest are a good source of money. especially gvg ZQ. you can make easily 50-100 zkeys in 3-4 hours and you even dont have to fight :d

People don't realize that being at least capable in PvP will net you more money than most PvE based methods. As the person above said, Questday can get you upwards of half a stack of keys which is like 1.5 million gold, mATs, ATs, etc will all get you lots of RPs if you perform well.

No lol, people don't realize just how much money power trading can generate. Just take a look at the screenshot posted a few pages ago. Can you get that much gold via PvP?

Yes, but high-end GvG is even more exclusive than high-end PvE. Just saying...

That's true. If it's above then still my assumptions work thought.

"With my vindictive and back-stabbing personality, I always knew I’d be
successful." - an advertisement on GTA: San Andreas radio.

Some people quote Shakespeare; I quote Rockstar Games.

It's rings true, however.

That's a bit patronizing, isn't it? Any player, really? You just assume they're all clueless?

Not weird, more like half-arsed and naive. And stop feeling righteous about it, it's killing me. Just don't try it with the guy selling an iPhone for $50 at street corner, please.

Back to the game: has it ever occured to you to take the item, sell it for the "right" price yourself and then track down the guy and give him the money? I'm sure both my fictional guy and your friend would have appreciated it.

Both in the RL and in-game, if someone is trying to sell an item for a fraction of its "real" worth and you give them the asking price but don't take the item, they will either trash it, or keep offering it for the same price to the next passer-by.

What you're missing is that the process of getting the "fair" price looks too complicated to them (for whatever reason), and they need the money they asked for, now. It's irrelevant whether they know or understand what they could be getting for it in ideal circumstances.

sour grapes are sour, eh?

I'd buy it if

A) He knows full well he is drastically selling it below market value
B) I actually want the item for myself

Since skins/minis/etc are nothing but vanity, there's no special advantage for me hoarding and enjoying it myself, making it ok to trade.

I would NOT buy it just to sell it later. I still consider that taking advantage of them, even though they are willing.

But recognize, in my view, power trading always takes advantage of someone. All those extra ectos you make have to come from somewhere. Through market manipulation, you just get other people to farm them for you.

Some self called power traders know full well their taking advantage of the ignorant there is no denying that. Can't remember who it was but I remember on a thread a while bac the poster was laughing how one time they were running someone through EotN and they saw a q8 enameled or darkwing drop(can't remember) and they asked to buy it off the person for 10k(think it was close to that). I believe it was blue I can't remember details since that post must have been ages ago but still those were worth 400e/each last I checked if tact.

That person knew full well the price of the shield while the one who traded 10k for it was most likely completely unaware.

Question: Is this being smart of just taking advantage of others?
Maybe smart isn't the best word to put there let's just say cunning instead.

A lot of the money I've made probably just came from playing the game. I never really did too much hardcore farming, because that just wasn't for me. Raptor farming on the holidays is probably the most farming I've ever done.

Most of it though probably came from playing festival arenas and selling off tokens, or all of the tournament reward points that I got from Snowball ATs. I can't even say that I've made money off of the four beetles that I've won through the CNY, since I kept one, got one hacked off of me, gave one to a friend, and still haven't done anything with the last.

If I were a mechanic and you brought your car in for a small problem you couldn't diagnose and I told you it was something exponentially more expensive, would I be taking advantage of you or being "smart"? It's an easy answer.

In-game currency is mostly worthless aside from show, so I don't see the point of the cut-throat mentality.

my sweet floor, dunno if u remember ur Lao but i get many money by
- power trade (sometimes 10/12 hours per days)
- many accounts for store many things for get value later (aka q8 weapons blablabla)
- abuse exploits / bots.
- permasin abuse doa/uw at start with multi-account

no need to argue, u cant get "super super super rich" by only playing.