Avatar of Dwayna Imbagon variant

Tip:you really should throw your own build together and post it. Haven't been able to fill in all the skills in the right spot so figured that could do more harm then good if people used an unfinished build as reference. The 4 skills that are completely "obvious" to me might not match up with the ones someone else would be using.

And given enough targets even less, but the point of an imbagon approach is to keep SY! up permanently without gaps. So the time it takes to run inbetween two groups can potentially result in a downtime which in turn can result in death. If your running that far to get to another group even the imbagon will take a while to get up SY as a dervish in a balanced team of hero's you will find keeping SY is very easy when you are running to the next group.

But hey that's my reasoning to stay with scythe an imitation build will not keep SY up like imba can or even the d-slasher. Same go's with dervish why do you think there is so many SY spamming dervish's around?

Heart of Fury expends a few strikes for SY! though so using Pious Fury would probably be better for the teardown effect. Zealous Renewal is kindof a given in the build though, for the energy management problems. Zealous spear should cover it fine IMO, assuming you don't use pious fury exactly due to emanage problems. A 10r that must be toredown on 10r just doesn't synergize with lyssa's haste approach, you can do it for slightly better adrenaline but it will cost some heals.

This build here:
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Mysticism 12+1+2
Wind Prayers 9
Earth Prayers 9

Avatar of Dwayna (Elite)
Meditation
Lyssa's Haste
Whirling Charge
Fleeting Stability
Conviction
Pious Fury
Save Yourselves!

Equipment: Zealous Spear of *Anything but Enchanting*
Variants:
Replace Conviction with Eremite's Zeal if you run into energy problems.
Replace Conviction with Mystic Healing if anyone is running party wide enchantments (such as Aegis, Order of Pain, etc.)
Spec 9 Tactics instead of 9 Earth Prayers for Additional armor
Use more PvE-only skills". Really like the idea behind this build. Being a frontliner(/tank support I suppose, instead of actual tank ) can get a bit dull, especially in melee hating pve areas... Kind of a like a less offensive, but more reliable Orders D/N.

Thanks for posting it can't wait to try it out!

The biggest advantage of a Dwayna Imba is the fact you can pump out NOT ONLY +100 armor, but +50 healing to the entire party in a reliable (if not constant) fashion as well. One of the reasons why Para Imba is almost always more effective than any other SY! spammer is positioning- they don't have to push/stand at the front of the fight; paras can guarantee EVERY party member is under the effects of SY! by simply re-positioning.

What I'm getting to is that you should try this more defensive-oriented build. It allows you to ram up the defensive with a Dervish and be potentially more effective defensively than a Paragon Imbagon. This build also allows you to consider the positioning factor- that you don't have to be at the frontline of every fight.

This build here:
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Mysticism 12+1+2
Wind Prayers 9
Earth Prayers 9

Avatar of Dwayna (Elite)
Meditation
Lyssa's Haste
Whirling Charge
Fleeting Stability
Conviction
Pious Fury
Save Yourselves!

Equipment: Zealous Spear of *Anything but Enchanting*
Variants:
Replace Conviction with Eremite's Zeal if you run into energy problems.
Replace Conviction with Mystic Healing if anyone is running party wide enchantments (such as Aegis, Order of Pain, etc.)
Spec 9 Tactics instead of 9 Earth Prayers for Additional armor
Use more PvE-only skills

Usage:
Spam 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
Use 6 + 7 for more controllable party healing (and IAS)
Spam 8 (Duh)
6 makes you more durable than the Paragon Imbagon (condition removal + bonus from mysticism + +10 armor + 8 AL from shield = better than para)

IF you could use cons+blessings+sup rune of Mysticism, you could potentially increase Meditation's energy return to 5 (at 18 specced), allowing you to spam a lot more.

This build is strictly oriented more defensively than other Imba builds, making it less "imba'd" but better than a Paragon Imbagon with essentially a spammable "TNTF!". Don't have time to properly test it right now but this is definitely along the lines of what I was looking for. Did a very quick test against mr. master of damage on battle islands showing that using a spear the adrenaline for SY! would charge in 7 seconds. But that's while taking zero damage! If you taken even just a little, it will charge in 6 seconds of less easily enabling you to keep it up 100% at R10+. Team heal spamming is also solid. That said energy management seemed very solid even without Meditation. So that one can definitely be removed and replaced with a better option, presuming there is one ofc xD (Probably should be because meditation has aftercast delay)

A short second after that I came up with this bar: Energy management is 100% solid unless facing energy denial and you have Zealous Renewal to cope with that. The highlight would be the 8\10 second uptime on 50% block which again adds even more to your self protection on top of hex removal and heals.

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Nevermind the bonetti's defence, using a PVP character to test so thats just a 8 adrenaline substitute for SY! in order to replicate the usage effectively.

Don't have time to properly test it right now but this is definitely along the lines of what I was looking for. Did a very quick test against mr. master of damage on battle islands showing that using a spear the adrenaline for SY! would charge in 7 seconds. But that's while taking zero damage! If you taken even just a little, it will charge in 6 seconds of less easily enabling you to keep it up 100% at R10+. Team heal spamming is also solid. That said energy management seemed very solid even without Meditation. So that one can definitely be removed and replaced with a better option, presuming there is one ofc xD (Probably should be because meditation has aftercast delay)

A short second after that I came up with this bar: Energy management is 100% solid unless facing energy denial and you have Zealous Renewal to cope with that. The highlight would be the 8\10 second uptime on 50% block which again adds even more to your self protection on top of hex removal and heals.

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Nevermind the bonetti's defence, using a PVP character to test so thats just a 8 adrenaline substitute for SY! in order to replicate the usage effectively. That's great. Although, why Zealous Renewal? Do you really need double zealous (unless you didn't have Zealous spear?)?

Also an idea occurred to me-
If you kept Lyssa's Haste and ran Balthazar's Aura instead, and ONLY used BA to fuel Pious Fury, would it be possible to keep up SY! ? 100% of the time at less than r10 (except on rare occasion when you want to lose a condition with Conviction) and still maintain energy/survivability?
FGJ! is also a viable temporary option as well.

That's great. Although, why Zealous Renewal? Do you really need double zealous (unless you didn't have Zealous spear?)?

Also an idea occurred to me-
If you kept Lyssa's Haste and ran Balthazar's Aura instead, and ONLY used BA to fuel Pious Fury, would it be possible to keep up SY! ? 100% of the time at less than r10 (except on rare occasion when you want to lose a condition with Conviction) and still maintain energy/survivability?
FGJ! is also a viable temporary option as well. No, mostly not. Which is why I prefer stripping it right away for instant 5 energy gain + healing. Basically it gives you a free Pious Fury cast which really is all you need. Either way it's a better form of energy management then meditation by afar.

On the Balthazar's Rage side of things, you can definitely swap that in somehow and strip using Pious Fury. Though I'm not quite sure you would actually gain anything from that since the cooldown is way longer then the duration of SY! you wouldn't be able to keep it up permanently.

So in short, the only way of keeping SY! up 100% of the time is to either have an outside adrenaline buff, higher IAS (green rock candy \ BU + Pious for 33% permanent) or simply put take more damage.

I'm not sure why you want to keep Lyssa's Haste though, reapplying enchantments does not trigger Avatar of Dwayna, so Lyssa's Haste opens up for the possibility of messing up the build more then you could possibly gain. Also Lyssa's itself has a long cooldown and a cast time