Another "help me with" S/M/D-way! Is this "good enough?"

I'll make this short.

I'm a returning player, and want to do two things. Breese trough the story in all campaigns, and start to hunt titels with HM Vanq and Missions clearing in all four.

I have only cleared prophecis before, but will buy mercs I think to be able to run something that lets me do the above safe and resonably fast without having to understand and modifiy my heroes for every area.

It his build good enugh for this? And please, I I'm following all the challange threads and discussions about discord right now, so please please leave that discussion outside this thread.

I think it only really lacks enchat removal, right? And I have heard both things about it, but splinter is used on minions by heroes right?

Right now I only have one main, and this is a N, so if I ad in him it looks like this, and as I haven't clear EotN I don't have any PvE skills:


Also, if I run the first build with a freind, what hereo should I leave home, and what skills do I need to slot in elsewhere?

Big thanks to all!

Remove complicate from Domination Mesmer
Use AoTL or Discord imo instead of Jagged Bones
Remove heals from SoS, you got enough with the discorders.

With the backline youre allready running you dont need your SoS ritualist to run heals, you can change either that or some other secoundary resto character. Remove splinter weapon aswell as heroes will focus that on your character but as you are a Necromancer youre not really gonna make use of it. On SoS ritualist you can add say Lamentation, Ancestors Rage, Fall Back and Stand Your Ground (8 command) you can allso remove Convert Hexes from SoGM and add another "Fall Back" there for a small chain. (8 command again) and use the Complicate spot from mesmer for say "Shatter Hex"

Uh, don't remove heals from SoS, it's fine there. And definitely don't remove splinter weapon. Do put in Discord for Jagged Bones though; if you're gonna run Discordway you might as well run it properly.

If you're gonna use Complicate on your Mes, use Glyph of Lesser Energy as E-management instead; then replace Power Drain with Leech Signet and throw in Shatter Hex maybe in place of the res - this way, you have this bar:

Panic, Mistrust, CoF, Complicate, Shatter Hex, Unnatural Signet, Leech Signet, Glyph

So your hero now has ONLY 10 energy spells and signets - guaranteed maximized return from Glyph.

However, I like your original bar better if you just put in something like Chaos Storm in place of Complicate.

Please take another necro elite for the discord guys, i found out it's really weak, especially 2 discords...

discord=single target damage not good enough imo

Quote: Originally Posted by tcratty

discord=single target damage not good enough imo Reality is you can get more then enough AoE damage to wipe practically any group using 3-4 mesmer heroes. So there's no point in not bringing some single target as both kinds of damage is usefull in different kinds of situations and youre going to encounter a lot of different situations going thru the game

You don't need Jagged, you got shambling.

You have too many healers. Remove one of the resto for something else.

definitely remove the heals from the SOS and add ancestor's rage, spirit rift 7 painful bond.

I agree with using AotL instead of jagged bones, also with removing the prots for command stuff.

Drop the ST for your buddy.

Make your Minion Master a Discord Hero. They work best in 3's and can still fill the role the MM plays entirely.

You can drop the Hex Removal for something better. Casters generally don't need to worry about hexes. If you keep them, bump the communing Rit to Remove Hex. 15e is too much otherwise.

Make one of the Necros /P with "Fall Back!" and "Stand Your Ground!". I would also add "Find Their Weakness!", but this is a personal choice that I like to micro since I don't carry "Finish Him!" at the moment.

The name is escaping me at the moment, but drop the 4th skill on the very last Necro. It's redundant. Put Shambling Horror in place of it.

Thats all I got for now.

Thanks! Taking the advice I end up with this:

Shatter hex in, and the /P skills. And a third Discord (yes I know the debate about this skill).

Does this look better then? Is the atribute spread good? (can't afford much runes) and do any bar seam to have energy problems?

Finally. Splinter. I get both a "go" and "no-go" everytime I ask, has anyone tried it out? Does a hero cast it on minions without micro?

I have tested with ranger pets, and heroes will not cast splinter on them without micro. I don't see why minions would be any different, but I admit I have not tested them directly. I haven't noticed any signs that my para's SoS rit is casting it on anything but my para while doing vanquishes. They seem to make this decision based on the weapon you have equipped, since they WILL cast splinter on a spear-carrying monk hero set to avoid combat. Given that pets and minions do not have weapons, despite doing physical damage, I expect that is the reason why they don't get splinter cast on them.