Need some guidance.......

I have been playing the game since the day it was released.

I was 13 years old then and it was the first piece of software I ever installed.

Its always been here.

I earned all kinds of gear and plat and stuff as I played , but, that was never a driving force for me. I played it because I enjoyed it.

When Ursan came out and started killing off the community I stayed. I believed in A-net. Despite Reginas forked tongue and pissy attitude about Ursan Blessing, I really believed that in the end Arenanet was going to choose the preservation of gameplay over selling X-amount more copies of EoTN with Ursan's OP'ness.

19 months later it was finally nerfed, but, by then it had decimated the community. There were not many people left that were able to traverse post-storyline content without Ursan or consumables.

Since then the game has forced the community further and further downhill, to the point where one might contend that its not even a game anymore......

Here is my dilemma.........

I still want to play the game. I still enjoy using my characters and tho I have few, if any, goals left in the game I am really not ready to quit......

There is no one playing. I hopped around the campaigns today for a couple hours looking for something (anything) to do. I counted 178 people LFR. I found exactly one LFG.

The one who was LFG was (of course) an SoS rit with Discord necros. Its not fun to play with them. Generally they have no idea what they are doing or how to play as a team , and more than that it's kind of dumb because I am not playing so much as watching them play. SoS is so stupidly OP that I don't even get to hit anything before a fight is over......

The post storyline content is dominated by absolute crap players using Shadowform and cons or other exploitive builds and cons. There is simply no way to form groups when your goal is to actually play the game. I can go in with heros but thats really not much fun.......

I have joined and left over 50 guilds in the last month or so. They are filled with people "working" on titles by LFR.

I have met LMotN's that have NEVER done a dungeon and R5 KOABD's who do not know the difference between a condition and a hex. I constantly see people trying to obtain titles without playing........

My question is simple.......

Is there anywhere......( be it a zone or activity within the game..... or a guild or alliance...... or some alternate GW server that places focus on gameplay over selling a few more copies of Factions and EoTN ).......anywhere....... that the game is still played ?

I don't care about GW2 at all. I am not interested in anything A-net produces from now on.

I am only interested in GW1........... Is there ANY gameplay left or is it really over?

Thanks for reading, I would love any advice you might offer.

Lose the persecuted victim complex and just play the damn game.

It's all well and good to moan and groan about the death of the community and the horrible, horrible mismanagement and all those other things people like complaining about, but the simple fact is that this game is old. People played it. They had fun. Many finished what they wanted to do, and they moved on.

If you want to play the game for fun, it still exists, in its entirety, waiting to be played. The community has changed, but that was bound to happen. You have very few new players because most who would play Guild Wars got the game years ago. There are very few people playing missions because they already completed them. You won't find many people doing a random, low level quest, because most of them have already been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

Honestly, though, that shouldn't be an issue unless you absolutely have to group with strangers. All you need is a friend or two, and you can play any aspect of the game. Or you could wait for the full hero update if you want to go alone. The only problem you might have is finding pick up groups, but that's because things change and people move on. It's not the way it used to be, but that doesn't mean that you can't do anything in this game you couldn't do before.

All the gameplay is left. So grab your heroes or make some friends, and if you want to play, go play.

Move on. You've come to the realization that most the player-base are shitters leftover from the UB days and that Anet is content catering to their awful understanding of game mechanics. This is the same realization that led to most of the older PvE'rs to leave the game. You might was well join them, for the implemenation of 7 hero teams will only make "LFG" even more scarce.

These bits made me laugh.

1. Who was Regina at the time of the Ursan rage/Hate high phase? I believe the Regina who is now Community manager was just a regular player at the time. The fare well party for Gaile Grey was later.


2. In all those years we could have hoped that you outgrew being 13 years old... but apparently your still working on that part.



Im sure that even the LFG and LFP players you joined for one mission were happy to get rid of you if you displayed the "Everyones an idiot" attitude you posted in the OP. Thats the good thing about GW. No one is forced to play with anyone else, you can always H/H the game.

If your looking for a Guild to stay with... try to treat people like you would like them to treat you and you should get on better . Maybe it would have been a start to try to explain to the player that couldnt tell the difference between a Hex and a Condition what the difference was. Its not too hard explaining to someone that a purple arrow down is a Hex and a grey one is a Condition.

Of course no one is LFG - it's still the New Years Day event.

As to OP builds - boo hoo, hope you eventually find some nubs that keep getting your group killed off in HM quests...

Definite troll. Playing since day 1, but Ursan was the problem - haha!!!

I understand you completely, it's so boring playing alone! And I hate it when people just pop tons of consets to make things quick and easy. What's the fun in that?!

You might enjoy doing Zaishen Bounties and Zaishen Missions with others.
It's easy to find a nice group to play with.

Even better, you can incorporate title-hunting with Zaishen quests.
For example: you may want to get Legendary Guardian. So wait for the day the mission you need is a Zaishen day. Then do it in HM with a PUG!

Or, you maybe you want the Asura/Vanguard/Norn/Dwarven titles.
Do the EotN Zaishen quests. You'll get a lot of PUGing!

I wasn't going to go for titles at all, I just like to play with other people. But Zaishen quests made the game fun for me again



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Umm... BTW, I agree with other's that the game has changed beyond recognition, and that it's not as enjoyable as before. I'm just trying to stretch it as long as possible, because there aren't any other games I like out there.

Like Simath said move on.
All your gonna do is just get flamed by all these fan boys......
I am with you though.....this game was AMAZING.....
But now when I sign on its depressing.
New content is being introduced that makes me just scratch my head and ask "WTF ANET"
Be it,
Pay for Costumes and storage panels or a Quest line for a Wedding??......
All this being seen as priority over Skill updates and other things Anet promised would be put first. and its not like they havent been doing this just recently.....
All This

Can't believe I totally missed Ursan Blessing for 19 months.

Adapt or Fail, been my motto for years been there since the begining aswell my friend.

i agree, the quality of the game as well as the community has gone down, which is why i play exclusively H/H

Quality has gone down, but there still are many players that do know what they are doing. There are guilds where everyone knows all the dungeons and no one will have a problem distinguishing a hex from a condition. Yes, the game is not balanced for thought and strategy and some people will use the same few builds again and again, but not all of them do. Many players like to see what they can do with a specific class even if it is quite weak. Meet people in game and find a good guild. Stay away from those who don't want to understand the mechanics of things. (Or you could pick a different game to play as well if it doesn't work, there are a lot of fun games out there.)

^^This made me laugh and there is a bit of truth in there. And if you joined 50 guilds in a month, then you never really gave them a chance. Finding a guild you like is the key to enjoying the game at this phase.

The irony with not wanting to get involved with GW2, is that they have learned alot from GW1 (and even MMOs in general) and many of the problems you have in GW1 may be a thing of the past, with how they are implementing the mechanics of GW2. At the very least, it should be much easier to balance. And the first few months to a year, it will be new to everybody. Just like when you first started playing GW1 and few gimmicks were around. Sounds like thats what you want. We can only wait and see.

You always have C:WoC and Embark Beach coming up! If that doesnt tickle your fancy, go to college, see the world, and live life. Gaming will be here when you get back.

lorazcyk is right about the Zaishen quests. There are also the new Wanted quests from the War in Kryta addition. There's a new one every day. Those are done quickly but it is easy to find other gamers to do those with.

There is a problem with this style of game and there will always be a problem, and that is the pve part.
The pvp part of GW is much like any other online game where you play the same map and mission over and over against ai or human opposition.

The pve style of play is more limited.
With this game players tend to go through the storyline once per character they run and then start farming for various reasons.
After five years only the completely new players are wanting to do missions for the sake of the mission.

Why else did they create the titles heroes and several other changes if it wasn't to keep pve alive once new add-ons were abandoned.

If the missions changed each time you played them so the opposition storyline and reward changed then players would want to repeat them.
How to do that in a realistic manner that still makes the storyline feel real is a challenge.
Until then old games will see a decline in normal pve play.

Well dude, I feel sorry for you if you can't get your head around a world w/out Ursan.

I don't think the game has gone down hill, rather a lot of players these days seem to be out for pure profit. Often in the chats "how can I make money fast?" comes up.

Get interested in WiK & GW:B There's soooo much content in the game right now. It has changed and progressed.....

A'Net seem to have neglected the gameplay for a while, which they are trying to put in order now and although this sometimes seems a little strange, imho the community is not as screwed up as it would first appear.

Yes, there's also lot's of "title chasers", A'net did that for a purpose.

Get used to it or quit!

What content do you want then? A new campaing? A full set of missions that lead to something not yet included in the lore (which is now limited, mind you, due to gw2)? They`ve done WiK, it was awesome. They`ve done HoTN - it was VERY fun to play and see how things go out and actually have relevance to the story. You`ll be getting WoC in Cantha next.
Ok, sure, the skill updates are pending. And why do you even complain that a company wants to make some more money out of a old game with something that you completely do not need to buy?
You`re gonna get the derv update soon, WoC, heroes. All is in order. They have small resources + the Test Krewe (which I won`t say anything negative about, becaue it`d just be pointless).
I did everything in this game already regarding PVE, I`ve tried playing all PVP modes. Honestly, I`m kinda bored, but this game didn`t change to be "less amazing" it still has its good sides, you just don`t want to see it.

I had same problems as veteran_player with guilds (gave up at the idea of finding a guild that will actually act like a guild (most of the guilds i was were chat or sellers guild and nothing else)).
Now I'm in an inactive guild playing gw mostly with my father (don't expect miracles from my father he barely plays gw for 3 weeks)... i know you will say leave, leave and joing what guild? I got tired to join and leave guilds after guilds, usually 2-3 days are enough for me to see that the guild is inactive or don't have any kind of guild activity.

The only thing that I want to get is gwamm on my ele (kinda boring part cause it will just mean to buy sweets and drunk title (don't think i will find someone to donate one of this title) and to vang 2 campaings ).

My real challenge is to teach my father to play gw. The challenge is not easy cause he don't speak any of the languages gw is translated too.

I'm sorry you feel this way. The community has stagnated because most people that have gotten their titles have stopped playing. I feel PvP died with factions, but that's a whole other story.

Ever since the introduction of GW2, gameplay has been geared toward "what's in my HoM?"

If you want to play for real, try doing a ZB when it is not a holiday. There will be pretty crappy players but at least you won't have to deal with Shadow Form and Discord heroes. Almost all of the time you'll see SoS though because it is overpowered, even if it is boring to play.

If I was in your situation I would probably move to PvP or get another game. PvP you wont find the OP pve skills, no SoS(doh) and no discord( I hope not).

I only play for short time(1.5 year), and yes I do use discord heroes and SoS, so I am not tired of them, yet. Although I do like my 100B warrior a lot more last couple of months because discord and sos is nothing compared to a war with a good necro behind it for curses and Rt with splinter imho.

Did the op really say oh wow is me Ursan doesn't exist moan moan etc.

I thought the main point of his post was do any players still play the game ie form parties and play missions, as opposed to farming and title hunting.