Farming - What the **** happened!

JimmyTyme, droprates don't change, people just get unlucky. 2 words... loot scaling, also if your still in disagreement PM me your in-game name and I'll show you exactly what I mean and if your still unconvinced I'll personally show you 3 additional areas as a small sample of the ones I've encountered

been there lately? tried them lately?
1. major skills that allowed any of the builds to work have been nerfed atleast once.
2. because of said nerfs there's simply no people with which to team up with.
3. The items within them have been so drastically reduced in price that it's deemed ''not worth any attention" by players because of the complete lack of profit and the near-impossible-to-do state that they were left in (only partially applies to SE and DoA) I am not sure whether you are doing this on purpose to contradict yourself time after time, but the aforementioned bolded part was caused due to overfarming in the first place. What you ask for is to bring the overfarming back, thus reducing the prices even further.

Had it not been for farming in the first place (or better yet, speedclearing), those areas would still be worth doing, be it money wise or challenge wise.

Also, join an active PvE guild and you will find these areas aren't as bad as they seem.

I've noticed Anet has made it almost entirely impossible and pointless to do things like Urgoz's Warren, The Deep, DoA and Slavers Exile the way they were meant to be played, or even at all. Pretty please and by all means, tell me how those areas really were supposed to be played. Please tell me how the latest patch prevents people from playing the game in this "supposed" way.

Completionists only play the game once, people who are out for a challenge also do not play an Elite-Mission every day, because soon that will not be challenging. The only people populating areas in the long term are the farmers, because they are the only people who have a motivation that won't go away.

But the farmers' mentality will always lead them to places where there are drops to be found that people are willing to buy. Then the farmers will grind the area until there is nobody left interested in those items. Hence prices go down. So please tell me, what are those magical places Anet had to artificially deplete and which farmers have not depleted themselves by over-saturating demand?

Pretty please and by all means, tell me how those areas really were supposed to be played. Please tell me how the latest patch prevents people from playing the game in this "supposed" way.

Completionists only play the game once, people who are out for a challenge also do not play an Elite-Mission every day, because soon that will not be challenging. The only people populating areas in the long term are the farmers, because they are the only people who have a motivation that won't go away.

But the farmers' mentality will always lead them to places where there are drops to be found that people are willing to buy. Then the farmers will grind the area until there is nobody left interested in those items. Hence prices go down. So please tell me, what are those magical places Anet had to artificially deplete and which farmers have not depleted themselves by over-saturating demand? Just like to add onto this on a smaller scale....ele swords

Pretty please and by all means, tell me how those areas really were supposed to be played. Please tell me how the latest patch prevents people from playing the game in this "supposed" way.

Completionists only play the game once, people who are out for a challenge also do not play an Elite-Mission every day, because soon that will not be challenging. The only people populating areas in the long term are the farmers, because they are the only people who have a motivation that won't go away.

But the farmers' mentality will always lead them to places where there are drops to be found that people are willing to buy. Then the farmers will grind the area until there is nobody left interested in those items. Hence prices go down. So please tell me, what are those magical places Anet had to artificially deplete and which farmers have not depleted themselves by over-saturating demand? Simplest and most effective answer I can give you is go to these places, try to assemble a group of people and see if you can possibly succeed, and "the way they were meant to be played" refers to not useing speed clears as farmers so often like to do and instead battling your way through them as a normal group with all classes (or atleast most classes noting urgoz's Thorn wolves doing 300-600dmg per hit making melee useless)

Yes, your arguement does have merit yes it is a good portion of the farmers mentality, but for example Urgoz's warren started off being run by b/p's (barrage/pet rangers, usually R/Mo or R/RT) then with HM it became too difficult to find a group, or even beat it for that matter. Then later people discovered that permasins (w/ bonds) could survive in HM and resulted in once again urgoz returning some did it as a speed clear, others (myself and many friends) did it for fun we did it casually and took our time, took minimum 1 hour or so to complete i personally managed to beat urgoz over 100 times and i still found it to be one of the funnest places in the entire game with the CoP (cry of pain) nerf it declined in # of people and frequency but i was still able to find a few groups here and there and even with the added difficulty which just made it better we succeeded, now not only the SF nerf eliminates a viable tank, but the classes which made it possible to find a group or for that matter beat it in HM even with unparalled difficulty place it back in the realm of near-impossibility