am i required to pay?

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its bad to sin
Frost Gate Guardian
• #1
i was getting a run for the zen daijun mission and he said 100% guarenteeed masters. his final time was 20 minutes and 11 seconds (masters is under 20mins) yet he still demanded the money i have screen shots where he says 100% masters guarenteed and a screen shot of the final time at 20:11 he then goes to tell me that he has reported me for scamming. only question i have is can i get any type of bann for not paying when he did not do what he said.

yes it was NM i should have known he would fail when one of his heros was a mez that had avatar of balthazar (10seconds) but i thought maybe he had some leet way of running it =D.
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Unholy Tank V
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #2
You can not get banned for this, the man explicitly said 100% Guaranteed Masters and he did not deliver. You have no reason to worry about getting banned, the guy is making empty threats.
Pony Slaystation
Pony Slaystation
Krytan Explorer
• #3
Personally, I don't think you could get banned for this, because after all, the runner guarenteed that you would get master'. If you do get banned, however, be sure to contact support, since you are not at fault.
Raudic
Raudic
Frost Gate Guardian
• #4
i wouldnt pay. hes the scammer in that situation
xron
xron
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #5
Anet may not know/see/realise that he stated 100% guaranteed masters so you may be banned imo.

However as long as you contact support and show them the screenshots it'll be rescinded.
Kerwyn Nasilan
Kerwyn Nasilan
Forge Runner
• #6
You cannot get banned on runs, period. ANet has explicitly said that runs are unsupported and you run/be runned at your own risk.
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lompos
Ascalonian Squire
• #7
i agree with Kerwyn. Also Anet doesn't get between 2 players, who have a problem between them.
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its bad to sin
Frost Gate Guardian
• #8
k thank you very much for your responses
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Killamus
Guest
• #9
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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan View Post
You cannot get banned on runs, period. ANet has explicitly said that runs are unsupported and you run/be runned at your own risk.
Are you sure? I think someone released that they would support runs, at least in the scamming portion of it. I believe it was on Gailie's or Reginia's blog somewhere.
citizensmith1001
citizensmith1001
Frost Gate Guardian
• #10
If i was you i would keep a SS of him saying 100% guarantee masters and a SS of him saying he would report you and also maybe a SS of the game map showing you don't have masters on that particular mission . If you do happen to get banned you should be unbanned fairly quick if you show them that kind of proof.
makosi
makosi
Grotto Attendant
• #11
It was one of those 'gentlemens' agreements' which, unlike conventional trade-window trades, require an element of faith in either party. I don't believe Anet frequently police such disputes but I have heard of incidences where people have been banned for 'bad intentions' in dungeon runs and the likes. Most likely due to blatantly obvious leeching or stealing.

If, in the unlikely event of a ban on your account, then you have the screenshots of the deal being offered and not being carried out successfully to which I'm sure they'll unban pretty fast.
Highlander Of Alba
Highlander Of Alba
Wilds Pathfinder
• #12
Will agree you wont get a ban ,, as technically just an agreement between you and the party....runs dont qualify for a ban

If he did then he has screenshots as you dont know what they guy said if he raised a ticket..

Would not worry about it
Sparkmaster25
Sparkmaster25
Ascalonian Squire
• #13
I know this is Irrelevant But was this in Normal mode because 20 minutes on that mission in Normal Mode is laughable.
Sookie
Sookie
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #14
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Originally Posted by its bad to sin View Post
i was getting a run for the zen daijun mission and he said 100% guarenteeed masters. his final time was 20 minutes and 11 seconds (masters is under 20mins) yet he still demanded the money i have screen shots where he says 100% masters guarenteed and a screen shot of the final time at 20:11 he then goes to tell me that he has reported me for scamming. only question i have is can i get any type of bann for not paying when he did not do what he said.
Keep the screens just in case he goes to support with a good lie, although Support does have the ability to check the time and date on all occurrences in the game logs.
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Bob Slydell
Forge Runner
• #15
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Originally Posted by its bad to sin View Post
i was getting a run for the zen daijun mission and he said 100% guarenteeed masters. his final time was 20 minutes and 11 seconds (masters is under 20mins) yet he still demanded the money i have screen shots where he says 100% masters guarenteed and a screen shot of the final time at 20:11 he then goes to tell me that he has reported me for scamming. only question i have is can i get any type of bann for not paying when he did not do what he said.

yes it was NM i should have known he would fail when one of his heros was a mez that had avatar of balthazar (10seconds) but i thought maybe he had some leet way of running it =D.
You can't be banned for that. Besides you have a screenshot that you could send as an appeal if you do get suspended or banned.
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Need More Donuts
Banned
• #16
He specifically stated a guranteed time and didn't achieve it why would you pay for a service you did not truly receive...
As long as you have screenshots you should be fine
good thinking
mathiastemplar
mathiastemplar
Wilds Pathfinder
• #17
Like every1 else said, he stated that it was 100%.
you won't get banned for this, as it's not scamming because he failed.

glhf
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majikmajikmajik
Wilds Pathfinder
• #18
Its a false report, you obviously didnt do anything wrong and it takes ALOT of reports to get even a temp ban so dont worry.
Quaker
Quaker
Hell's Protector
• #19
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Originally Posted by its bad to sin View Post
i was getting a run for the zen daijun mission and he said 100% guarenteeed masters.
But, did he say "guaranteed, or it's free"? Or "Moneyback guaranteed"? If he didn't say what the penalty was for failing to get masters, it won't hold up in a court of law.

Just teasing (tho true) - don't pay him and don't worry about a ban.
Dzjudz
Dzjudz
Furnace Stoker
• #20
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Originally Posted by xron View Post
Anet may not know/see/realise that he stated 100% guaranteed masters so you may be banned imo.
Chat log?....