Your opinion on XTH?

Didn't see a thread on this so here goes

Is XTH good? Should it be kept?
Should XTH be removed/amended?

Pros: gets players involved with mATs(best I could think of)
Cons: puts zkeys in economy every month and messes with it

Question for Regina if you see this
Will Xth be removed anytime soon? Before gw2? Thanks

So share your opinions!


(sorry if there is similar thread or in wrong location)

I have no clue what XTH is, but I'm for it because it makes you whine about the economy.

I love the free money I get from this system.

But it has to be changed or stopped.

Maybe gamble Z Keys or something.

xunlai tournament house....go to guildwars.com-->competitive-->xunlai tournament house


And honestly I'm not whining about economy, just stating the facts...hey I get keys from it so it doesn't hurt me

The XTH needs to be removed. It's economic/financial mismanagement hundreds of times the scale of the subprime mortgage crisis.

Yes, im 'whining' about an economy that operates currency that doesn't exist in printed form, but seriously, if you think the economy isn't important in a multiplayer game, go back to single player...

There's a thread in sardelac, sharing my view on the topic

great, do we need to go over why zkeys do not tamper with the economy, because all it does is shift money around?

First of all, good luck with the thread mate.

Is XTH good?
Yes for Anet, the extra accounts bring in revenue
Yes to fight goldfarmers and bots and Ebay. (is this temporarely, I don't know)

pros:
- people indeed get to know the top pvp teams which is a good thing imo
- free stuff is always nice until it becomes a normal thing, after that it looses its effect somewhat
- free monthly gambling system of Anet is a cool thing. Every month I feel a bit like I'm betting on top soccer teams or something

cons:
- Still no real pve emote and zaishen title didn't really help on that part imo. But ok it's here now, still hope some day pve will get an emote for the KoBD title track. Nothing big or the pvp peeps are gonna be pissed.
- It doesn't always seem to function properly and it gives the playerbase and especially some folks at Anet headaches. They have some time to fix this, but it can't go on like that forever.

Should it be kept?
Should XTH be removed/amended?
Well, we have it for a year now, it would be interesting to look at the effects since then. Anet has more info on that and I'm wondering how they think about it now.

I'm not making any conclusions yet.

I Think it should be abolished before GW2.

I don't care about it I guess. Considering even it does hurt the economy, you can't really hurt something that's already a vegetable. They will eventually become very cheap just like most farmable things in guild wars. It's just the cycle of life with this game. Someone catches on to get rich quick item or technique, shares it with a friend or is figured out by the vast majority some other way. Prices go down as it becomes more well known and popular. Dead swords, elemental swords, chaos axes, colossal scimitars. The list goes on, and no sought after item is an exception it would seem. XTH and Z-keys are no different, lots of people want them, and getting them is very easy.

Amen , brother,

I have made several quotes in most of the xunlai whine threads explaining why zkeys only shift money around the economy of guild wars.

The part it did wreck was the devaluing of somewhat rare skins that you had to do something to get, eg. some of the skins that only came from dungeon chests and a very small chance of getting them then.

Most of the people that qq in these threads don't understand the concepts of the only thing that is getting prices hurt are the zkeys themselves because of supply spikes from XTH and the fanbois with 472 accounts.

I'm for it. It's fun, sorta like being given ten lottery tickets in your Christmas stocking. It keeps people engaged in an otherwise dwindling fanbase, and that's always a good thing.

I just wish they stopped having problems every single month with distribution. But that's a relatively petty concern.

Lets face it, it's ANet's version of an Item Shop. They won't likely stop it as it brings constant revenue into the business. Pure genius on their part.

Players who can afford to purchase 472 accounts will have the most money ingame. That's a bit sad cause now all you need do is log in once a month, trade your keys and buy whatever weapon skin, armor set etc you want with the gold/ecto. In a sense it eliminated the need for (at least some) skill from certain areas of the game.

I think it will be around for as long as GW1 is around.

xunlai tournament house is fine. only true problem is the abuse of people using multiple accounts. making predictions on 10+ accounts and getting 200+ keys a month is a little broken.

I adored it when I could sell zkeys for 5k ea within 5 min. Easy 100k gogo.
But now, even trying to sell for 4k is taking forever. <.<

I do like it overall. Free money is always ftw and it makes the title easier to get. If I wanted to keep XTH, I totally would :P

It should be imho completely removed.

It allows players who don't play the game to get massive amounts of free money - I know a guy who's best char is still lv18 after 6 months but he's already made his first Million gold on selling the free ZKeys.

The worst thing about XTH is that it greatly reduces the value of rewards PvP players get.
With more and more players registering more and more accounts into XTH, the value of Zaishen Keys will continue to go down and down every month. There's simply not enough money in the economy to pay for the huge overflow of free zkeys.

Other than that, XTH doesn't even fulfill it's function of getting players interested in PvP, especially with the HB votes. Those are completely screwed up and totally random, because of HB players constantly switching accounts and changing names.

It's just a FREE random lottery where you always win.

Game is boring anyway. Only fun thing to do is dressing up characters in items etc, House provides a little money/lottery to do so.

So what you're saying is that if the government prints a bunch of money and inflates the value of everything, that's OK because all it does is make the existing rich (ie: holders of land, property and valuable resources) richer?

Distributional consequences are bad. Stable expectations are good.

While XTH was a terrible idea for the game, it is a source of revenue for the devs and is not going away. XTH is simply a blatant effort by the devs to legalize RMT and collect the surplus themselves without catching the negative publicity associated with selling money in an online game.

Anyone that tries to tell you differently is either naive or self-serving.

Agreed.People need to realise the ideas behind XTH. If you predict on 1 account and get 80pts,back in the day that roughly translated to 1pt-1k. Those points don't have the same value now so what do people do? play.com amazon.com and buy more accounts for £10 ea.More sales and revenue for them,happier players that now have x amount of accounts for XTH farming (Like me).

Thinking otherwise is a pretty dumb thing to do..

Imo, keep it. However, "account-bound" Zaishen Keys should be the resulting prizes.

This would stop people from buying 40 + accounts and selling the z keys, but would not stop normal PvPers from selling them, or the people from opening the chest themselves.

It keeps money flowing to Anet. That's a good thing. That's GW2 being released in 2011 rather than never. If people want to break open their piggybanks for a bunch of $5 Prophecies accounts so they can accumulate in-game wealth, good for them. At least they're not paying gold farmers for the same thing. It doesn't hurt me in the least, and it doesn't hurt you either. Someone having more gold/goodies than you doesn't have any bearing on your game or your real life persona whatsoever. Deal with it.