Ladder Manipulation/Farming Champion Points

I've been a member of a small group that syncs into DA and Snowball, so if you're trying to say that that's a "respectable" title, you'd be off.

It's probably the most fun title out there though, if that's what you're aiming for.

I doubt anyone who is buying that title is trying to join pvp guilds with it. Notice the service is pretty much offered up to r3, which is HoM requirement. Sounds more like a pve method to get the statue, which is similar to paying people to run elite missions and dungeons for you.

Plus how is this different than rolling is HB, you are just get titles points. waiting for the mass banning caused by that.

I do agree that the failing to load part needs fixing, but as long as it win trading, the risk of getting another guild than the one you synced i think balances it. If you get to many of of those, you sync guild falls out of champ range and becomes worthless.

Ladder manipulation is a higly punishable offence if anyone remembers the QQ saga ages ago.

Part of exploit is evading rank loss for loosing if sync fails ("fail" loading, no rank loss).

And nothing prevents then from buying high ranked guild and continuing where they left.

GANK will sync HA by having someone make a randomway that waits at zaishen to sync with their real team.

That NRF guild the OP mentioned definitely exploits getting champ points. i was in that guild for a day but left because it was the worst guild ive ever been in. the leader(the one who bought the guild) was possibly the worst player ive ever witnessed. He banned 6 out of 6 monks that we pugged to HA for 'failing'. i would see no tactics being called by him, just raging. He would literally ban them in a fit of rage the second one person died on our team. i dont remember his name and im not allowed to say, but it sounded like tsunami or something.

The difference is the ladder actually meant something back then, whereas now it's 100% irrelevant.

This doesn't give them an advantage in any way because title points don't matter, and unlike RA, it doesn't effect other players in the slightest. Nor is it a new occurrence.

If the ladder and rating mattered, this would be a bigger deal.

Even if that was true it doesn't matter as it says clearly in the Guild Wars tournament rules that Players/Guilds shouldn't participate in Ladder Manipulation. Anet should either enforce their rules or change them.

Also, ladder is not 100% irrelevant as it's used as the final tie breaker in Automated tournaments.

Aborting matches with people looking for a straight oldfashioned GvG match affects other people by wasting their time.

Scrubs getting rolled in 2 minutes and turtling until VoD wasted my time too, but that wasn't against the rules.

It's not the kind of 'affects other players' that really makes a difference. You just have to go into GvG again with no loss. Entering GvG was never a guaranteed solid fight as it was - and the 30 seconds lost entering/leaving the game are inconsequential.

entertainment is entertaining.

hopefully the people that find these loopholes will learn that the very thing they are grinding is losing its e-peen-ness every time they use the exploit, and by the time theyre done they will understand why its better to do it the old fashioned way.

till then, play games to have fun...

Oh Yes There Will Be Blood...

Now I realize why some guy was running around spamming WTB Champ rank guild everywhere and PMing everyone he could asking....

Why? They should make you lol. Is there anything more pathetic than people that buy a prize that has to be earned?

I mean, those jokers brand themselves with the scarlet letter by wearing unearned trim around.

I'd say "Farm" Wars

As everything gets farmed 2 death because of lack of in game content. You farm your titles as in farming to buy them or grinding.

I find it refreshing actually.
The time and thought many of the sync teams put into the actual act....makes you wonder why they don't take that ability to the next level..TA, or even GvG.
Until then, enjoy the spectacle, and maybe whoop ass while your up against them.
QQ iz ok in RA...

lol @ regina reading this thread



does anyone remember that top100 gvg guild that sync'd da?
was all on vent and used "pro-tactics"?
went for like wut? 20+hrs straight
and racked up like 500consec victories?
(cant remember teh numbers...but they were ridiculous)


anyways, i never really thought much of the champ title
if its against teh rules, then ban

if not...then i only really care as much bout ppl buyin fame or zrank

if i need to kno who a good player is...
i watch em on obs mode or play against em
(in both cases, u cannot see their title)

The simple solution is to remove the count down timer from the screen. Just put up a "buff" or "enchantment" called "You are in queue." And it just loads you when it does. This way players have no idea of when they'll load into the pvp and won't have any way to abuse the system.

I guess this person doesnt know who leads NRF.... anyway as was stated more than once PvEr HoM farmers. I sure the "good" people in this game know who the other good people are, this QQing is pointless if you know these people dont play with them simple as that.


In these cases it is. The guilds ladder maniping like this are likely not able to get into a situation where a tie-breaker is necisarry.

erm, who cares?

So let them farm champ points by playing each other, it doesn't affect anyone else. It could have been a problem because it screws up the ladder, but with the AT system no one cares about ladder anymore.