I can't say I never get greens ...

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Fitz Rinley
Fitz Rinley
Wilds Pathfinder
• #1
But I never get greens I am looking for. I hate trading for them. Because that is a waste of time. Either they know you want something specific so they wont sell at anything close to a reasonable price, or no one ever wants that green so no one farms for it.

Since Nightfall came out there are a few weapons I have tried to get. I have tried for an r9, max, inscribable Fiery Elonian Gladius. I have tried for Wioli's Artifact. I have tried for Darksong. (By the way, It took over a week with a friend hitting Hanaku for a couple hours at a time a few times a day to get his focus.) I have spent around 20 hours now, on three different days farming for Wioli's Artifact, which is not for sale. (I Hate Farming!) I have repeatedly gone after Kournans in HM for the gladius I want - never drops. I get lower quality blue ones in the 12-17 dmg range on rare occasions. A friend got Darksong and gave it to me as a present.

Now, I understand that you are supposed to feel some kind of rewarding exileration because you had to spend 50 years getting something accomplished. I don't and I won't. Like most people, it's 5 seconds of TGIO (Thank God it's Over!), and on to the next thing on the to do list. So where are we?

We are in a double drop rate weekend where I repeatedly went in and killed the same 7 monsters, Wioli is one of them, in order to get his green. After a dozen romps in and kills with NO deaths to our name (Myself and 3 healer heroes) we suddenly cant approach without dying. (There is no Farm code, there is no farm code, there is no farm code - repeat mantra.) Did the green drop before I got to fill up my invetory (1-2 drops maybe per round) - no it didnt. Do I now believe there is a double rate of green drops for the weekend. No I do not - unless double of Never drops = Never drops. (2x0=0)

Am I bitching, yes... I go to the free chests and get 0 gold and maybe another useless mesmer weapon - often they are purple. This is not because of going too often, I frequently dont go for 2 months at a time. People who go every 30 days get gold and gold drops. I tried that - and it didnt happen either. I play a great deal. I have noticed - since I am using my other account to help a friend - the account I dont normally play and hadnt since I bought 14 slots for my main - that that account gets better drops. It seems we are punished for being avid players.

With 10 characters to advance, around 300 titles to get for HoM (PvE player), armors, etc. It appears that those most dedicated to playing the game are to be punished for making an effort. - punished with bad and no drops.
Jenn
Jenn
Resigned.
• #2
I admire your effort to grind weapons. Unless there's an easy way to do it (like Exuro's Will, which I made a killing off of at the beginning of NF [100k/hour]), I generally won't. I either buy it, or use something else I picked up.

I think part of your lack of success is taking heroes and henchies along. It's pure shitty chance to actually get a green drop when you have them folk along. I know it's not possible with everything, but I've noticed that with a lot of greens, they can be farmed solo, or with only one other hero, provided you research the area you're going into.

Some people also just get the short end of the stick. I get purples from the free chests, and a few hundred gold at best. I've gotten only a few greens from playing, I've only ever gotten white birthday presents, and on top of that, no gold drops worth remembering except 1-2.

What bosses are you still looking to farm? Maybe I can offer some ideas, and if not, well, at least I tried .
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t3dw4rd0
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #3
Yea, try flagging your heros away. They'll steal your drops.
FlamingMetroid
FlamingMetroid
Jungle Guide
• #4
I don't care and neither should you, making a few posts in Ventari's will get you the green or equivalent weapon skin + mods in a few weeks of doing nothing.

PROTIP: you'll get the green when you happen to be going through that area, and kill the boss after you've got a replacement weapon; this game hates you like that.
Winterclaw
Winterclaw
Wark!!!
• #5
I kind of know how the OP feels, I got the soulwailer by accident but haven't gotten dyawna's grace in all my farming attempts.
Hanging Man
Hanging Man
Krytan Explorer
• #6
oh yeah this happens to me all the time
when factions came out i wanted to farm for Wings axe.
Simple right?
Well I tried and tried and tried...

and tried. But I never gotten one.
One day my brother offered to assist me in farming.
So we go out, and me and him kill Wing.
And of-fcking-course
Wings Axe drops for him
Im like WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF
greens do drop, but chances are low. Not extremely but low
AKB48
AKB48
Jungle Guide
• #7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley
But I never get greens I am looking for. I hate trading for them. Because that is a waste of time. Either they know you want something specific so they wont sell at anything close to a reasonable price, or no one ever wants that green so no one farms for it.

Since Nightfall came out there are a few weapons I have tried to get. I have tried for an r9, max, inscribable Fiery Elonian Gladius. I have tried for Wioli's Artifact. I have tried for Darksong. (By the way, It took over a week with a friend hitting Hanaku for a couple hours at a time a few times a day to get his focus.) I have spent around 20 hours now, on three different days farming for Wioli's Artifact, which is not for sale. (I Hate Farming!) I have repeatedly gone after Kournans in HM for the gladius I want - never drops. I get lower quality blue ones in the 12-17 dmg range on rare occasions. A friend got Darksong and gave it to me as a present.

Now, I understand that you are supposed to feel some kind of rewarding exileration because you had to spend 50 years getting something accomplished. I don't and I won't. Like most people, it's 5 seconds of TGIO (Thank God it's Over!), and on to the next thing on the to do list. So where are we?

We are in a double drop rate weekend where I repeatedly went in and killed the same 7 monsters, Wioli is one of them, in order to get his green. After a dozen romps in and kills with NO deaths to our name (Myself and 3 healer heroes) we suddenly cant approach without dying. (There is no Farm code, there is no farm code, there is no farm code - repeat mantra.) Did the green drop before I got to fill up my invetory (1-2 drops maybe per round) - no it didnt. Do I now believe there is a double rate of green drops for the weekend. No I do not - unless double of Never drops = Never drops. (2x0=0)

Am I bitching, yes... I go to the free chests and get 0 gold and maybe another useless mesmer weapon - often they are purple. This is not because of going too often, I frequently dont go for 2 months at a time. People who go every 30 days get gold and gold drops. I tried that - and it didnt happen either. I play a great deal. I have noticed - since I am using my other account to help a friend - the account I dont normally play and hadnt since I bought 14 slots for my main - that that account gets better drops. It seems we are punished for being avid players.

With 10 characters to advance, around 300 titles to get for HoM (PvE player), armors, etc. It appears that those most dedicated to playing the game are to be punished for making an effort. - punished with bad and no drops.
Well yeah duh, greens suck these days and that's why people never sell them.(they dont even farm them anymore) If you're poor just use one of the end game greens. But otherwise I guess if you played GW 2 years earlier it would have been better, since everyone then was "green-crazy".(The Ugly Stick costed 75k, now? 1k) Also you should remember GW is solely a tool for entertainment, nothing more......So I guess play less and take it easy FTW? Yeah probably.

And btw, Anet isn't punishing anyone, it just happens that you have shtty luck. But don't worry, I tried the free chest last month, after a full 9 month gap, and what did I get? purples and 800-1000 gold.
Sai Rith
Sai Rith
Krytan Explorer
• #8
I feel your pain. I bet you end up buying those weapons from someone, then later return and the weapon drops for you. Amirite?
KZaske
KZaske
Jungle Guide
• #9
Been there done that. So the chances of a green droping are normally around one in 500 thousand drops or some such high number. Like the OP, I am not normally the lucky guy to get one. I do have collection of greens, I get about one a month or so.
I can say that I have never gone out to get a green and actually gotten it. Farming a green seems to be a waste of time for me.
Arduin
Arduin
Grotto Attendant
• #10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley
Am I bitching, yes... I go to the free chests and get 0 gold and maybe another useless mesmer weapon - often they are purple. This is not because of going too often, I frequently dont go for 2 months at a time. People who go every 30 days get gold and gold drops.
First time you open those chest or buried treasures you will get a guarenteed gold weapon. Second time the same. After the third time purples will start to appear.

This has nothing to do with the amount of time between the openings, it's solely based on the amount of openings.
farmerfez
farmerfez
Krytan Explorer
• #11
it's double from about 2% (I think) So it's only like 4% which really isn't THAT much.
NeHoMaR
NeHoMaR
Desert Nomad
• #12
Mmm, an idea comes to my mind: Change all green drops for some type of green coins, then you go to the "green's NPC" and get the green you want ^_^
Winterclaw
Winterclaw
Wark!!!
• #13
I'd love for something like that to happen, but when I made that suggestion in the sardelac, it got mixed results at best.
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gremlin
Furnace Stoker
• #14
With me its bows rarely anything else drops but send my necro out farming for tomes and other goodies and I get bows.

Im not complaining, well I am kinda because the area I was farming had this ranger boss that was really easy to kill.
So every 3 or 4 runs he dropped his green item.

result I have 23 green vampiric shortbows when I wasnt even farming for them.
I sold a couple gave a few away and have some for use with my rangers but the darn things keep dropping.
Krytos
Krytos
Ascalonian Squire
• #15
I hate dealing in greens too, btw thanks your post reminded me to get teh free nightfall treasures again.
Murmel
Murmel
Krytan Explorer
• #16
Solo with 55 SV necro. No henchies needed and preety fool-proof
Sorry about your bad luck, but your not alone. I have this problem too..
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crazybanshee
Desert Nomad
• #17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
First time you open those chest or buried treasures you will get a guarenteed gold weapon. Second time the same. After the third time purples will start to appear.

This has nothing to do with the amount of time between the openings, it's solely based on the amount of openings.
Wait.. what? I've only opened the chests 3 times (and I've had nf for a year now) First time I got mostly golds, second time I got mostly purples, third time I got all purples. I believe that the more you play a toon the worse you get here, cause I know people that never play theirs and get way more golds than me. I'm not bitching, I'm just disagreeing with your statement.
Shayne Hawke
Shayne Hawke
Departed from Tyria
• #18
That's a lot of whining over greens. Versus golds,

Pros:
1. Unique skins - Does nothing.
2. Dyed - Big whoop.
3. Maxed stats - The only good thing you can count on.

Cons:
1. Low drop rate - Why bother farming them?
2. Can't customize - Some greens don't have the stats I want, and even if they do, I might want a different skin.
3. Can be duplicated, for functionality - Why kill for or buy a green when I can make my own?

In short, greens are junk. If you find one, lucky you, you get to sell it to someone foolish enough to think it's worth five times its value, and then go buy five weapons that you can actually put to use.
Stolen Souls
Stolen Souls
Desert Nomad
• #19
hmm. I have a req 9 inscribable Fiery Gladius sitting on a mule character. >_>

As far as greens go, my luck is very, very wierd. I can go for literally months at a time without seeing one, then suddenly get 4 in one day. Tonight I capped about 35 elites to finish my survivor (I did it, wewt), and got only 2 greens...Neoli's Contagion and Lunto's Pincers, lawl. Afterwards I decided to go kill Woespreader...eh, maybe get some MM hero staves. First try with h/h....got one. Tried again....got another. Then another. Three in a row. Decided to try some other bosses....two hours later, and nothing. So yeah...my luck is very odd....
HawkofStorms
HawkofStorms
Hall Hero
• #20
The only greens I've ever gotten that I actually wanted, was that sundering NF green bow that is worthless because it was so easily farmed

and I once randomly got wing's axe while going through Factions the first time on my ranger.

The fact that the trading system in the game is so obtuse complicates the issue a lot. I'm sure a lot of greens are out in the market and if A.net could more easily and effectively match buyer to seller, I'm sure finding what you want would be a lot easier.

But as others said (specifically Shayne Hawke, whose opinion I'm starting to really respect here on guru, we rarely disagree, kinda like me an mithran)
Greens are not supposed to be the end all weapons, golds are/where... pre inscription days. Of course, now a max blue weapon can be the end all, penultimate weapon. Its like we are going back in time to the first months of Prophecies were the only thing people used was collectors equipment.