Discussion: Izzy and smiting (2nd try)

Izzy hates smiting. We all have things we love and hate. Is he biased towards smite though? If so, do you think it's fair that one powerful person can supress a line like smiting?

EDIT:
1) Smiting is ok in PvP as it is.

2) Smiting has a lot of unfocused dmg, reversal is one example. Bane signet is direct dmg but you can't kill a fly with it in HM. The knock down is nice but really isn't needed, a lot of dmg is needed though in PvE.

It gets boring playing heal/prot time and time again. Smiting brings a nice change especially if your main is a monk. You know, open up the class a bit, have some more fun. That's what PvE is about.

It would be nice if Izzy would think about that and change his view on the line a bit.

Why have a line like smiting if monks are not meant to do damage? It represents the power of Balthazar.

The skill balancer hating smite isn't that promising for smiters in PvE, yet a sin has a godly protect skill like shadow form. Why don't sins make a monk then if they want protection? See the contradiction? Eles have good protection too with wards and spells like mist form etc. In PvE you can make an ele protector with infinite energy (ether renewal) who's better than a protector monk. O.o

Smiting is fine as it is.
Top GvG Guilds running smite support thanks to smite condition and buffed smite hex. Smiter's Boon gave the line some play.

Although I am with Izzy ... smiting must be a tame damage line, as channeling on rits should be. Otherwise you get 8 monks running around.

And finally LOL @ "...do you think it's fair that one powerful person can surpress a line like smiting? " spilled my coffee.

Yeah I had to make it a discussion.

At least my smiting topic does some laughable dmg in real life too it seems.

If you ask Izzy (and his silly team) what the use of Smiting is I wonder what the answer would be.

Remove energy loss from [Holy Wrath]

LOL indeed. I spilled my tea.

Smiting MUST be weak or else you get 8x Mo immortal spike (or pressure) teams.

Each class has redheadedstepchild line, smiting is monk one, not big deal.

Different sort of protection: punishes attackers.

Anyone who saw Bane signet, Reversal of Damage ... should have gotten general idea

smiting is fine. It is a great support line. Monks are not ment to do crazy damage, you are obviously playing the wrong class.

If you want damage, play another class. Monks are not meant to do big damage. Smiting is fine as it is.

We've been running a smiter pretty constantly in TA for a long time now. The divine boon + smiter's boon variant is extremely powerful as a second monk - it's nearly immune to interrupts, it prevents enemy warriors from frenzying, it has damn near infinite energy, and I can run it after my 4th beer. Smiting isn't and shouldn't be a DPS line, but it's a damn fine support line.

Smiting is used in top PvP teams as I said before. It's fine.

In PvE, Smite is worthy gimmick if you go to areas with undead.

There is enough of those areas to vent your "must ... smite ... something" urges.

can't buff that anymore, think of all the sin that uses bane signet and signet of judgement ...

and i would not say i hate Izzy as I have no idea what kind of GW player he is, i might own him 1vs1 thou, who know, and lucky or I hope, Izzy's not have the omg you attack me personally attitude huh.

QFT. In PvE (Where you said you wanted big damage) Monks are pretty much pure healers. You put a smiting monk in almost any group and ping your skills you pretty much just got yourself kicked. Smiting is fine.

No I don't see the contradiction. I see a terrible comparison. You have no idea what you're talkin about.
Monks are perfectly fine.

You are aware there are separate skill balances for PvE and PvP, right?

While I'm not a big fan of PvE/PvP split, Arkantos has a point there.

you apparently have not met them in RA or my skills has gone blunt.

Did you vanquish the game using smite oh leet one? And after that did you vanquish it again on your monk using a bow and ranger skills and notice you do double/tripple the dmg? I did and it's silly to have a smiting line if you can do way more damage using a secondary on your primary.

In a way this is a good thing as I don't have to make another character. But why have the smiting line then?

people already explained it :

Smiting is a great support line. Not a raw damage line.

I am not complaining my warrior can heal better with secondary profession skills than with primary skills, now am I ? why ? easy, warriors aren't supposed to be healing. Monks are not a damage class, get over it.

...What? Your reason to not buff smiting was because of A/Mo's in PvP. That reason is completely ignorant, seeing as there is a PvE/PvP skill balance split.

As RotteN said, it's a great support line.

The ignorant posts are just piling up this morning, it's amazing.