Will the Superior Rune ever make a comeback?

I remember when the headgear with a superior rune attached was a near-given in PvE regardless of a character's profession. But, since the debut of hard mode, superior attribute runes have gone the way of the dodo save for a few specific uses.

Should they revamp the penalty to make superiors attractive again? This was done - mostly unsuccessfully- with majors, so there is a history of this kind of change. Or, should there be some other kind of buff... or should majors and sups just be removed completely?

no


Why would they?

I am sorry i lol'd when i saw this.....

dang ive been running w sup runes on my headpieces this whole time

/facepalm

Superior runes in Hard Mode are very acceptible for non-front line characters, as long as your team is experienced enough to obtain and hold aggro properly.

Warrior, Dervish, and Assassin (other than perma SF) superior runes aren't all that bad in NM PvE (and sometimes HM PvE), especially if you have a very good mid/backline.

There would have to be signifigant changes to how superior runes work or signifigant boost to skills at 15 and 16 points. I don't see that happening so no, sup runes are going to remain merchant junk.

ditto

oh I just lol'd again thinking about it

Why would you not run a sup rune in pve?

Its not like the monsters are stopping you from armor swapping

o.O

You know what is funny...

That some people actually buy them.

theres only a few builds i dont use superior runes on in pve

most heroes i rune have a superior headpiece still

The number of people using superior runes even in PvE has gone down dramatically. Some very specific builds still use them. I dont think there is anything to be fixed regarding the health penality.

Honestly there's nothing wrong with superiors the way they are now...

If you are worried about the hp loss, think of it this way. If you character is ever down to 50hp (where the superior would actually make a difference), theres something wrong anyways, and they will most likely die whether they have some extra hp or not.

edit: and as others have said, there's always armor swapping....

If you die in PvE and blame it on superiour runes... no comment.

In PvP it never was attractive to bring superiour runes.
And since almost every build in GW uses a spike in GW most people prefer HP.

/agree, i did run sup runes on my war, but quickly learned the fallacy of that. My ele, though, has a sup fire magic run on the headpiece. as long as my MM hero/war henches do their jobs, and my healer hero does his, i usually survive.

BTW, the only reason i am using a sup rune is for Rodgort's spells, it increases the amount of burning by one second on each one, so for me it's worth it.

as a caster in PvE i use sup. In PvP I NEVER use em. xD

Damn, I keep missing important memos!

I vanquished Tyria and became legendary guardian and legendary cartographer 100% with H/H, without use of ursan or consumables, and everyone in my team had a superior rune. If only I'd known superiors were death sentences!

Seriously, come on. If you find PvE so hard that using superiors is the difference between living and dying, then you probably need to change your build. Superiors are completely viable in PvE.

PvP is another matter entirely.

Superior runes are still used in PvE on most non-frontline characters. They aren't used in PvP because you want to keep you health at ~600-630 becuase of spikes. Spiking in PvE is not common place and is usually easily countered. For example an necro not running Sup runes as an MM is losing a lot, same with eles.

I'd use a superior in PvE, can't say 75HP has ever made a difference to anything, but the slight att boost makes things go just that little bit faster.
PvP situation is, of course, a different matter, what witht he focus on spiking.
I do remember a time when the conventional wisdom was that all characters had 1 superior, even warriors - not so much for the improved attack skill variables, but for the effective armour negation and critical hit ratio.

In PvE, if I'm not a frontliner I'll have a sup rune. I know how to armor swap (I always carry two or three sets) and weapon swap (only my rit has one weapon set, because I don't use him much).

In PvP, as stated before it's about health. The damage reduction from a sup to a major, even a minor, isn't so bad against other players.

I use a sup rune on my terra and perma. I dont know how I could've been so stupid