Change to Tournament Reward Points Coming!

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Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#1
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena...eloper_updates

[Dev Update] Tournament Reward Tweaks - 23 July 2008
To reduce the number of guilds who join tournaments and don’t play, we have changed Tournament Reward Point distribution for Daily Automated Tournaments. We introduced Reward Points for playing through the whole tournament to encourage more guilds to play through the entire tournament, but many guilds have abused the system by joining tournaments and not playing at all. Instead of banning anyone involved, we have added a restriction on gaining reward points from Daily Automated Tournaments: A guild must be at least rank 1000 to receive Reward Points. This does not stop a guild from joining a tournament. We will be evaluating this update and make changes if necessary.

All I have to say is "about time" for the AFK Zaishen farmers...
Murmel
Murmel
Krytan Explorer
#2
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc


All I have to say is "about time" for the AFK Zaishen farmers...
Yep... 12 chars
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Another Felldspar
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
It looks like it would stop unranked AFK farmers, but that's all. And it makes it so that guilds without rank can't play, not AFK but play, and get rewards while they learn.
Orange Milk
Orange Milk
Desert Nomad
#4
Ohno'es for the [Oi] alliance, whatever shall they do now?

I'm assuming the 3 Rp's per win stands no matter what your rank. So your AFK beats the other AFk and your get 3 RP's, it happens, but less AFKer's will join now so AFk vs AFK battle wil have less chance of happening.

I still see a small issue though, that the [Oi] folks can exploit with ease.

Curently it takes like 1003 or so rating to get rank 1000. So simply enough you sync your AFK guilds, get a win or two and enter a tourny. The good news to that is that the CURRENT AFK guilds are screwed because their rating is VERY low right now, so they would need to create entirly new guilds, then wait 14 days, so yeah more trouble than it's worth maybe.
Dr.Jones
Dr.Jones
Banned
#5
this will change nothing. they also didnt address the issue that only the people who play in the first Tournament are the only people who get points.
Free Sigils
Free Sigils
Frost Gate Guardian
#6
Plus it takes 4 wins to get on the ladder these days. Lol.

But its a start.
lemming
lemming
The Hotshot
#7
Before everyone complains about how much this is going to kill lower-end participation in the ladder, talk to Tolkano and see how many legitimate guilds under r1k there are ATing.
cosyfiep
cosyfiep
are we there yet?
#8
do the devs (and regina) post here any more????? or are we going to be forced to just go to their sites instead......

anyways, its nice they are doing SOMETHING......
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#9
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Originally Posted by tehlemming
Before everyone complains about how much this is going to kill lower-end participation in the ladder, talk to Tolkano and see how many legitimate guilds under r1k there are ATing.
My only concern with this Lemming, is that there are indeed lower guilds (like us) that were planning on ATing, beginning (what a suprise ) this August. Following the Guru tournament, we were talking seriously about it, and we (following the resolution of some time-problem issues) were ready to go this August.

We enjoy GvG quite a bit, but the AT's massive time investment isn't worth it at all, save for the RPs.

I very much doubt that I can get my team to AT now that the tournament will be both a hassle and unrewarding.

I would have seriously preferred the ban idea they had.



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DarkNecrid
Furnace Stoker
#10
I would have preferred the way RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing more simple fix of no more getting RPs at the end for just playing, instead dividing all the points given out amongst guilds who win the finals.
Ec]-[oMaN
Ec]-[oMaN
Desert Nomad
#11
So let's say for instance if a guild registers in the AT and are r1000, by the end of the AT they end up r1001. Will they receive the RP's? TBH judging by other things that happen with RP's for instance the person playing in the first match, ends up with all the RP if someone later takes his spot. Going by this I would assume they will be handing out RP's to guilds r1000 or better if your guild was sub r1001 during the registration.
Eddie Frenzy Spam
Eddie Frenzy Spam
Krytan Explorer
#12
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
My only concern with this Lemming, is that there are indeed lower guilds (like us) that were planning on ATing, beginning (what a suprise ) this August. Following the Guru tournament, we were talking seriously about it, and we (following the resolution of some time-problem issues) were ready to go this August.

We enjoy GvG quite a bit, but the AT's massive time investment isn't worth it at all, save for the RPs.

I very much doubt that I can get my team to AT now that the tournament will be both a hassle and unrewarding.

I would have seriously preferred the ban idea they had.



If the only reason you're AT'ing is because of the RP (which is basically what you're saying) then please don't QQ about how you can't learn to GvG now, and your team won't play blah blah blah.

If you actually want to learn how to play GvG with your guild then the fact that you will not be getting reward points should not even come into the equation.

ONTOPIC: I don't really see how this will change anything, considering how easy it is to get to rank 1k, and even if you fail that hard and can't get r1k, I'm sure you could pay someone to get those like 2 or 3 wins you need and then start AFK'ing again. Really seems like a short term fix to a long term problem, which never helps. I will give them credit for trying though =] they did say they would be monitoring how this works, so maybe if it doesn't have the desired outcome they will find a better more practical solution.
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#13
whatever, screw it, not worth arguing.
Daenara
Daenara
Bad Romance
#14
My old guild went from unranked to R600 in two nights.. I can't see that it's going to make that much of a difference. (and there were 6 of us and two heroes running lameway) If a guild is seriously going to start ATing, it might only be a night or two before they qualify for RP's.
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Selket
Desert Nomad
#15
change the requirement to make it so that one has to sing you a starsong to qualitfy.

I think this change would benefit people those who wish to hear a starsong.
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Its Quagmire
Banned
#16
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Originally Posted by tehlemming
Before everyone complains about how much this is going to kill lower-end participation in the ladder, talk to Tolkano and see how many legitimate guilds under r1k there are ATing.
Not to mention how easy it is to climb the ladder now.
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DarkNecrid
Furnace Stoker
#17
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Originally Posted by eddie the reaper
If the only reason you're AT'ing is because of the RP (which is basically what you're saying) then please don't QQ about how you can't learn to GvG now, and your team won't play blah blah blah.

If you actually want to learn how to play GvG with your guild then the fact that you will not be getting reward points should not even come into the equation.
Hey buddy, stop being a dick and leave him alone. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he doesn't care about the rewards, but maybe the other 7 people he is playing with might want an incentive? Especially if they are PvErs, they want a reward for doing something. All this has done is punished the actual people who could possibly earn the rewards (and hey, PvErs are going to have trouble getting into the top 1k, okay.), instead of doing a solution that might benefit those who actually play but not those who afk.
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Its Quagmire
Banned
#18
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
Hey buddy, stop being a dick and leave him alone. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he doesn't care about the rewards, but maybe the other 7 people he is playing with might want an incentive? Especially if they are PvErs, they want a reward for doing something. All this has done is punished the actual people who could possibly earn the rewards (and hey, PvErs are going to have trouble getting into the top 1k, okay.), instead of doing a solution that might benefit those who actually play but not those who afk.
Once again, another update that is going to make the rich richer, and the poor poorer. GG Anet.
RavagerOfDreams
RavagerOfDreams
Desert Nomad
#19
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Originally Posted by Its Quagmire
Once again, another update that is going to make the rich richer, and the poor poorer. GG Anet.
im sorry your an idiot

leeching for reward points is bad kthxbai
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#20
Why is this based on Rank instead of Rating?

I also expect over half of HB to quit... which isn't necessarily a bad thing.