Anet is Waiting for a Reason

Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness 1995
Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal 1996
Diablo 1996
StarCraft 1998
StarCraft: Brood War 1998
Warcraft II: Battle.net Edition 1999
Diablo II 2000
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 2001
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 2002
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne 2003
World of Warcraft 2004
World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade 2007
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Under Development
StarCraft II Under Development
Diablo III Under Development

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Since WC2, they haven't had a single flop.

There is going to be a new KOTOR?

kotor mmo by bioware
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Your view is obviously biased by your own preference towards GW. Your post would have more credibility if you interviewed some fanboys from other games.

that said, I do hope ANet learns from their mistakes, and doesn't screw up GW2.
With the addition of races, I only hope they will only impact PvE and not PvP.


~ Makk.

As far as I knew, the staff that worked on the orignal GW's were a bunch of ex-Blizzard staff that were directly involved with Diablo 2 and the expansion Lord of Destruction?

Well I dont think Warhammer Online will be same as Age of Conan , the game has been delayed few times and its for the better. It has some very good and never seen ideas which will make a lot of people play it , and i do think itll steel a huge mass of WoW pvp players. As for GW i think the total absence of info about GW2 ,the new games coming out and the absence of new and interesting GW updates ( something better than HoM going account based ) will make the game population going down. And yes WAR will start the WoW's end ( Joking ) . If you have seen some of WAR podcast - about the pvp system , the guilds, the crafting skills youll definitely say " Wow ... " A game whit so much potential cant be f****d up

P.S. We need something to keep us play the game , so ANet should start doing it !

re pvp in gw2
They will I assume do something about the bonus mods on weapons vs races, I have several +vs Charr and +vs Plants.

Would assume either they allow them in and create + vs Humans Norn Asura or block them from pvp.

Would be interested to hear from the pvp players if the bonuses would make any impact at all to pvp.

Great post +++. Would lol again.

Given that the handling of GW strongly indicates that Anet has no ****ing clue what they're doing, I'm not really sure where this confidence in GW2 is coming from.

But hey, I can play the baseless prediction game too! I say D3 wipes the floor with GW2.

Rock n roll racing and lost vikings were awesome.

Most people have already made up their mind if they're going to get Guild Wars 2 or not, which says more about the pull of the original game than it does the mythical sequel no one has seen or heard. I myself am giving Anet the benefit of the doubt, because even though GW is steadily stalling, the fact that we don't have any info on GW2 is no reason to assume that what is there is bad.

They started over for a reason. This is a chance to weed out the bad design choices they've made over the course of GW's run, and the truth is that no one knows what kind of game GW2 is going to be. But I'm willing to wager that your love/hate of it will be primarily affected by your love/hate of GW.

The bonuses would make a major difference, and I can expect teams that minmax to a race advantage to be the new gimmick.

That said, unless GW2 has third-party support for tournaments (even WoW has managed this), it won't be as much of PvP success.

This is head-in-the-sand rationale, frankly. The devs have indicated what they think they've learned from making GW, both explicitly in interviews and implicitly through the changes they've implemented in GW. Unless you think that all of the GW-related changes to-date have just been random "why not?" larks to jerk around the playerbase, I'd say that GW2 will fall right in line with the design trend that they've been following. And if the changes to GW are examples of Anet trying to "fix their mistakes", GW2 can't be anything but disappointing to me.

That said, I'm still keeping track of what the devs are doing with this game, as it makes for an interesting game design case study. At this point, I no longer care which way they take their game, but it's interesting to examine what they think they've learned, and how they put their acquired knowledge to use.

Is there honestly anyone around here who bought GW for it's level cap of twenty instead of it having no fees? The only reason why i (and presumably most others) play guildwars is because WoW has fees. That's it. If WoW had no fees, no one would pick guildwars over it.That's completely out of the question. So yes, i DO love that Anet is making GW PVE a little more rewarding then that big, skippable PVP tutorial Prophecies was.

I agree on this one, WoW is bigger, there is more to do, easier to get "friends" alot more fun (to me) but in the end Fee < No Fee. I'm not saying GW sucks because it doesnt, i dont play shit (like dungeon runner or whatever they are called), but if it wasnt for the fee i would be all over WoW and its expansions

HURR DURR

I'd hope so too, but then I realize that they even don't know what their mistakes were. Example- does AN consider Ursan a mistake?

I would.

Although this game is dying out to me, I did play WoW at one point, and seriously, I quit it on my sixth day of playing.

You guys do know that it takes more than a year to make a good video game right? I'm going to guess that it would take at least 2-3 years for them. Age of conan took 5 I believe and its not even finished. Just be patient and wait till GW2 comes out. Anet doesn't need people to continue to play the original GW because they don't have subscription fees. If everybody happens to quit today, they'll still make GW2. Once anet actually releases information, everyone will get all hyped up again. So honestly, can you idiots stop with the "ZOMG D3 OWWWWNS GW2!!!!!!111" because you haven't even seen GW2 yet, and no one can really compare until both games actually come out.

That's a really big presumption. I, for one, would still choose Guild Wars over WoW even if both were ftp. GW has an actual storyline (WoW merely has a lore backdrop for quests). I prefer GW's instancing, Hero/hench mechanic, graphics, skill setup, level cap, armor acquisition, and world creation over WoW. And I *like* WoW; it's just that GW is better in most ways that I care about. The absence of fees is an added bonus.

The only reason I go back to WoW occasionally is that there has been nothing new from Anet in a long time. GW is at a dead-end for me.

Where Anet most conspicuously fails, imo, is in PR. Here it has been ages since anything has been said about GW2, and I think their player base deserves better than that. Blizzard, at least, knows how to drum up interest, excitement, and anticipation. Anet knows ... only the "silent treatment."

Even so, Guild Wars has been, really, the most fun I've had for the longest time in any MMO I've ever played (WoW, TR, CoH, LOTRO, etc.). I have every confidence that GW2 is going to be my first choice in MMOs when (and if) it ever comes out.

Yes.

I liked being able to get to a level playing field without several months of grind (from the perspective of a non-hardcore player). I like being able to bring whatever character I feel like to play with a friend or guildie without having to worry about making sure our levels match. And, while you didn't specify it directly, as someone who enjoys experimentation I really like being able to overhaul my build for free.