Anet is Waiting for a Reason

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Brother Sunrise
Pre-Searing Cadet
#1
Age of Conan came out and because of the "blood and decapitation" sequences and "mortal kombat" kill moves hooked and pulled in alot of the younger more "oh did you see that" type fish. I am pretty sure after the first free month that comes with buying the game that it will lose half of it's pre-release mmorpg addicts. Similar to what happened with Vanguard. They will most likely go back to WoW, or wait for the release of Warhammer Online this fall...

Which brings me to Warhammer Online. Warhammer Online is already dropping playable professions and cities because they have bitten off more than they can chew. Warhammer will be trying to get it's money back, just as AoC is doing currently, by using the mmorpg initial launch "hype machine". Selling six month chunks of pay to play before the open beta is even up and running. Seems the programmers over there are too busy being "rock stars" and are not busy enough with their content to compete with the WoW monopoly...

I do, however, think that Warhammer will eventually beat out AoC in terms of player population and new content, but, I also think that after Warhammer is launched as has time to show it's true colors for six months or so, that it will have alot of trouble from the WoW monopoly...

The only true exception in the now flooded pay to play mmorpg market is, Everquest and Everquest 2, simply because that game has a fan base that is just as loyal as GW, because it was the first of it's kind. It was a precursor to the WoW monopoly...

Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard Online, Star Wars, City of Hero's, etc...will continue to slowly drop accounts, as long as WoW continues to patch in new content...because all of these pay to play mmorpg's are very similar to...you guessed it...the WoW monopoly!

Which brings me to the Assasin of the mmorpg, you guessed it...Guild Wars!

The GWEN patch is a direct trial and error test for GW2. Anet is pushing buttons across the board from within the state of the game, from ursan farming, nerfing/buffing builds, and economy control to instanced dungeons and title formations, to name a few. The majority of the original program developers for GW and it's stand alones are now sitting with silent tounges (and no hype) working on GW2 for a reason. They are waiting and watching what all these other muck mucks that are flooding the market with hasty half finished pay to play games are going to do compared to the WoW monopoly.
And whereas the GW franchise dosen't charge for server time per month, I have a strong feeling that they aren't hasily begging for early money during launches due to lack of content and/or bugs. NC Soft has deep pockets and Anet is just getting warmed up. I wouldn't be surprised if GW2 dosen't come out until the end of 09' or early 2010, all for the fact that they have a niche that they know they can use against the pay to play monopolies...


I'll See You All There,

Brother Sunrise



P.S. PvP for armor upgrades (WoW) or PvP for friggin' cash money (GW).
Issac
Issac
Desert Nomad
#2
You do hit some good points, just hope your right. But then again they could have released some info of GW2 to keep the people a bi more interested.
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#3
Well, I wouldn't even want to put GW on the same table genre as an MMO. That aside...

If anything, I'd say their waiting for a time where they won't be utterly crushed by the competition (hiya D3). We have been given more info, though, so that's always a good thing.

Honestly, wait and see. But from what we've been told so far, it sounds very much like one of two things: An MMO or a much more traditonal RPG - and I'm really hoping it's going to be more of a traditional RPG.
slowerpoke
slowerpoke
Desert Nomad
#4
well i hope they learnt well from GWEN

..not to include anything like that in guildwars again
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Infectious
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
If D3 comes out before GW2, I won't be getting GW2 put it that way.
Im guessing alot of other people feel the same way.
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Sniper22
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
Anet might not know everything that they are doing yet in the game. Yes a screenshot of the graphics might be nice, but even that might be still in development, who knows how far they have gotten into GW2. I think they haven't released much information because they don't want to make any promises they can't keep. I'm sure they are probably testing different things to see what works best in this half GW, half tradition mmorpg game. I don't really mind that they haven't hyped up the game yet, we don't need another age of conan disaster where the game was rushed, incomplete, and fell short of expectations. I remember purchasing GW about 2 weeks after it came out and I didn't notice any significant bugs and the whole game seemed completed. The only thing that wasn't there that I noticed was an icon for the necro scar pattern armor... which isn't much. Maybe I'm all wrong, but I think if anet hypes up the game too early, then they'll feel rushed to satisfy the market and release an unfinished game. As long as GW2 is a good solid game that sticks to the original ideas of GW (no grind, skill > time, etc) then I'm fine.
Dr.Jones
Dr.Jones
Banned
#7
what is your point with this tread???
Bahumhat
Bahumhat
Krytan Explorer
#8
His point is in the tittle, "Anet is waiting for a reason"

Poor education strikes again!

I for one agree with everything he(OP) said.
Esan
Esan
Jungle Guide
#9
GW2 should not be mentioned alongside other games in development that have released screenshots and gameplay demos (playable or otherwise). As Regina has recently stated GW2 won't be "shown" at PAX or Leipzig, it must mean that GW2 development is in much worse shape than one was led to believe by the hype surrounding the announcement in March 2007. I don't know why they are being so secretive, but I know from personal experience that they are losing players at a high rate because of the complete stagnation of GW1.

I can only wonder if Anet are following the trail blazed by 3D Realms, makers of the equally fictional Duke Nukem Forever.
Bahumhat
Bahumhat
Krytan Explorer
#10
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Originally Posted by Esan
I can only wonder if Anet are following the trail blazed by 3D Realms, makers of the equally fictional Duke Nukem Forever.
bit off topic but, there has been some videos showcasing gameplay from DNF.
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#11
Only after a couple centuries, however : I
Nightow
Nightow
Forge Runner
#12
I always remind people, D3 has been in development for how many years now? And they only just announced it...

Compare that to GW and I think Anet's actually handling it better so far.
draxynnic
draxynnic
Furnace Stoker
#13
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Originally Posted by Infectious
If D3 comes out before GW2, I won't be getting GW2 put it that way.
Im guessing alot of other people feel the same way.
I like the mesmer style of play... and I'm pretty certain it won't be in D3.
Songbringer
Songbringer
Desert Nomad
#14
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Originally Posted by Infectious
If D3 comes out before GW2, I won't be getting GW2 put it that way.
Im guessing alot of other people feel the same way.

Me two.

However from the people I have talked to on different WoW forums and just friends in general who play it. They have said like the Guild Wars economy the WoW economy is slowly dieing. Many of my friends have said they think the next exspansion will be the dagger in the heart of WoW economy. However I don't think WoW will be dieing out anytime soon I don't believe it will stay the power house for ever. I think you kind of see it that way. Showing all the errors in all these different games and comparing them to the ALMIGHTY WOW. WoW has great concepts but so do all those other games. The other games just need time to get the kinks worked out just like WoW did.


Edit: OOOO HAHAHHAHA!! Are you kidding. I was reading through a couple posts I didn't feel like reading at first a little more closely. AND! "I think they haven't released much information because they don't want to make any promises they can't keep" Um where have you been lately. They have broken a ton of there promises.....
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Lawrence Chang
Wilds Pathfinder
#15
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Originally Posted by Nightow
I always remind people, D3 has been in development for how many years now? And they only just announced it...

Compare that to GW and I think Anet's actually handling it better so far.
why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO are you comparing Anet and Blizzard ?
Flav
Flav
Ascalonian Squire
#16
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Originally Posted by Nightow
I always remind people, D3 has been in development for how many years now? And they only just announced it...
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Which is better than announcing something with hardly any material to show for it. ANet announced GW2 way too soon. I'm sold on D3 and with each passing day without anything show for GW2, I'm becoming more and more disinterested in GW2.

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Originally Posted by Infectious
If D3 comes out before GW2, I won't be getting GW2 put it that way.
Im guessing alot of other people feel the same way.
I agree with you, the only two ways I would play GW2 is if it comes out before D3 or if D3 turns out to be a really bad game.
Dr.Jones
Dr.Jones
Banned
#17
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Originally Posted by Bahumhat
His point is in the tittle, "Anet is waiting for a reason"

Poor education strikes again!

I for one agree with everything he(OP) said.
a reason for what? he dosnt talk about that at all, he only talks about other games and then simi compares it to gw2.
Sora267
Sora267
Krytan Explorer
#18
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang
why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO are you comparing Anet and Blizzard ?
Because they're competitors, and any smart consumer compares their choices in order to pick the better one.

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
a reason for what? he dosnt talk about that at all, he only talks about other games and then simi compares it to gw2.
He meant that there was a reason that they were waiting, not that they were waiting for a reason to do something.
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C2K
Krytan Explorer
#19
When its released, Guild Wars' competition is going to be D3, and that could be bad news for Guild Wars.
Nevin
Nevin
Furnace Stoker
#20
You give Anet a bit too much credit.